Next Fast RNP Ride - 17th January - Audley In

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Postby jimmy » 28 Feb 2009, 12:28

I think I'm going to back out again.

I went for a ride this morning with Renegade, and I could only manage the B Group, and I struggled at that. I was completely shattered by the time I got home.

I might get out tomorrow morning, but I will only do the standard Waterfall Ride (probably with the middies) if I do anything at all.

Have a good ride peoples

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Postby weiyun » 28 Feb 2009, 18:32

Rest well James. Hot tea helps.

BTW, thanks for the interesting ride today up north. Loved it. Renegade B is pretty good ride without killing oneself. I'll give A a try when I am more familiar with the route.

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Postby jimmy » 09 Mar 2009, 10:46

For anyone who is interested, here is the profile of the RNP Route

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The top profile is from Waterfall to the Princess Highway at Loftus, and the lower is the reverse direction.

It does illustrate the "Hard" and "Not as Hard" ways.

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Postby weiyun » 09 Mar 2009, 10:53

There are some inconsistencies b/n the two. The grades shown aren't mirror images of each other.

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Postby Stuart » 09 Mar 2009, 18:32

For anyone who is interested, here is the profile of the RNP Route
nice profiles! Are you a paying member of MapMyRide to get them looking so good or is there a trick I'm missing?

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Postby jimmy » 10 Mar 2009, 06:54

nice profiles! Are you a paying member of MapMyRide to get them looking so good or is there a trick I'm missing?
ummm.... no comment....

I did a bit of editing in GIMP to get them one above the other, but that is about it.

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Postby shrubb face » 16 Mar 2009, 10:07

Just wanted to thank James, Christian and Julian for what was a very enjoyable ride (race?) through the park yesterday.

A special congradulations goes to Julian, who I must say is a brilliant climber. Give him a couple of years more training and there will be no one in the club who can stay with him.

Alex.

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Postby jimmy » 05 Apr 2009, 05:21

Sorry guys, I couldn't make it this morning.

I came down with something last night, and while the fever broke overnight, I felt that discretion was the better part of valor, and I should rest this morning.

I hope you had a good ride.

James

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Postby weiyun » 05 Apr 2009, 09:22

Joined the RNP group for the way down. It was just Julian and one new rider when I got there and they didn't see the post. We were joined by Fred, Matt, George and Eddie along the way and shame that I had to turn back at Engadine to get back home on time. A lovely morning for riding!

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Postby FAswad » 06 Apr 2009, 14:19

Was a good ride. Hope you get well soon Jimmy.

Had a flat on the way in just as I got off the M5, and it was panic from there onwards to try and make it to Mazza's on time. After realising it was impossible, Eddie and George led the way through some short cuts and we joined the group just before the Bridge.

An impressive sight I must admit, that sea of red at Sutherland servo at 8:30 am. Hopefully, some will start thinking about defecting to RNP ride.

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Postby weiyun » 06 Apr 2009, 14:31

An impressive sight I must admit, that sea of red at Sutherland servo at 8:30 am. Hopefully, some will start thinking about defecting to RNP ride.
It should be even more impressive when we can dish out the new jerseys in due course.

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Postby jimmy » 18 Apr 2009, 13:33

Despite the RNP Road Works, this ride is still on tomorrow morning (weather dependent).

If the road is open, then it will be as normal, if the road is closed, then I am sure we can work something out.

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Postby jimmy » 26 Apr 2009, 13:03

I rode in the opposite direction this morning, I checked out the road, and while there were unpaved sections, they were all hard packed dirt, so it was actually as smooth or smoother than the asphalt. There was a downhill section where I was comfortably over 40km/hr with no issues on the road surface.

According to the signs, the road works are expected to be finished on the 1/5, so we should be fine for next weeks ride.

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Postby jimmy » 03 May 2009, 13:06

Small turn out this morning, just Julian, Geoff and myself.

As it turned out, the finish on the road works have been delayed by a fortnight, and they aren't expected to be finished until 15th May. When I saw the sign near the Audley Entrance, we had a quick meeting and a new route was planned and decided on.

We dropped into Audley, climbed Artillery Hill, turned around and then rode back to the Highway.

We then headed for Waterfall with the intention of descending the Waterfall Hill and climbing back out. Geoff decided to drop back, and Julian and I were caught by the Fasties bunch at Heathcote Rd.

Extra Kudos goes to Tim who descended and climbed out with us, on his fixie with 73" inch gearing. He wasn't that far behind Julian and I and about 30 seconds of that was time that he lost on the descent.

Tim left us at Dolls Point, and Julian was starting to suffer by this stage. So again, well done to Julian on staying with it for as long as he did. I hope that you managed to get home and you weren't too wiped out for the rest of the day.

If the road works are extended again, it may be worthwhile to do a Bundeena loop on the 17th. I am hoping that they will get them finished this time.

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Postby weiyun » 03 May 2009, 15:35

Sounds like there won't be a regular Slowies RNP next Sun then.

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Postby mikesbytes » 03 May 2009, 18:26

Sounds like there won't be a regular Slowies RNP next Sun then.
James and I discussed RNP slowies this morning, the proposal is that RNP slowies go down Waterfall hill, then up to the Gary beach sign, then uturn back down and go back up Waterfall hill.

The added advantage is anyone who wants to try one of the RNP hills but doesn't feel confident to do the entire park can go down Waterfall hill, turn around and go back up, so just doing one hill.

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Postby jimmy » 17 May 2009, 13:35

Bad luck to Julian who missed me at the shop this morning, set of chasing, but it just wasn't to be.

If he had come through the park, he would have caught up to me as I had to stop and change a flat.

Also, the next ride is on the 7th of June and I will not be able to make it, or any until I return from my holiday on 12th July so I should be able to make the one on the 19th July.

Can one of the other moderators keep the subject of this post up to date with the upcoming rides.

To make it easy, here they are

7th June - Anticlockwise (in at Waterfall)
21st June - Clockwise (in at Audley)
5th July - Anticlockwise (in at Waterfall)
19th July - Clockwise (in at Audley)

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Postby weiyun » 17 May 2009, 15:18

Have a nice holiday James! We won't miss the pain and suffering during your absence. ;)

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Postby T-Bone » 17 May 2009, 19:42

not much racing for me to do in June, so i'll try and keep everyone suffering a suitable amount, especially once the uni semester ends.

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Postby jimmy » 13 Jul 2009, 08:44

I'm Back...

And the good news is that despite the vast number of kilometres I did, I have forgotten what a hill looks like.

Anyone want to play?

James

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Postby jimmy » 18 Jul 2009, 21:30

Don't know if I am going to make it tomorrow, I feel a really bad case of apathy coming on...

Bit hard to get motivated about a ride of merely 95km...

James

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Postby jimmy » 14 Aug 2009, 06:50

I am going to be out on Sunday, but not with this ride. Sorry, I'm really not good around other people at the moment.

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Postby weiyun » 16 Aug 2009, 18:39

Heard on the radio, a motorcyclist crashed into the rock face at Flat Rock Creek in RNP.

http://livenews.com.au/news/motorcylist ... /16/216379

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Postby timyone » 16 Aug 2009, 19:47

and i had to ride back from where they cut the road off back out of the park, on the way home from my bulli pass ride :( i was wondering what happened, they said the road would be closed for hours. i think he may be dead :(

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Postby jimmy » 17 Aug 2009, 08:01

We were talking about the road quality on Saturday, one theory is that they deliberately made the road surface rough to try and slow the bikes down. That came undone when they had to hot mix the corners of that section because it was getting torn apart.

I know that on the first corner past the Bundeena Turnoff when heading north that there is yellow paint on the road to indicate that a rider failed to negotiate the corner. Always a wake up call.

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Postby weiyun » 17 Aug 2009, 08:40

Would be interesting if police have a speed camera set up on that loop. It sure will catch a good number of speeders.

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Postby willster » 17 Aug 2009, 09:39

And would be long overdue. Same applies to the area between Kiama and Jamberoo & Macquarie Passes. Was passed by the same crotch rocket wanker three times on a two km stretch of road as he reached a junction, turned around and repeated it. Each time in excess of 150km/h. No wonder they are called organ donors.

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Postby mikesbytes » 17 Aug 2009, 21:58

Would be interesting if police have a speed camera set up on that loop. It sure will catch a good number of speeders.
Is the speed limit 60kph?

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Postby weiyun » 17 Aug 2009, 22:22

Is the speed limit 60kph?
Can't remember.

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Postby G » 24 Aug 2009, 16:39

Did a solo RNP yesterday. The climb at Audley is a killer. It doesn't end so quick! I want to do it again :D

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Postby jimmy » 24 Aug 2009, 17:14

Which way did you do it? In at Audley or in at Waterfall?

When I do it with the quick riders we typically average around the 30km/hr mark, there would be some leeway in this depending on how quick you climb the hills.

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Postby G » 24 Aug 2009, 17:27

Which way did you do it? In at Audley or in at Waterfall?

When I do it with the quick riders we typically average around the 30km/hr mark, there would be some leeway in this depending on how quick you climb the hills.

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Did it Audley in. I was doing about 10-12km/hr in that seemingly endless Audley climb, and I was breathless like a fish without water.

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Postby jimmy » 24 Aug 2009, 17:51

10-12km/hr up that hill is pretty solid. That is about what I manage to do.

I also know that hill so, I know where the top is, it is pretty soul destroying as you tend to see a corner approaching thinking that it is the top, only to find that it turns and keeps going, and it does it about three times.

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Postby G » 24 Aug 2009, 18:03

10-12km/hr up that hill is pretty solid. That is about what I manage to do.

I also know that hill so, I know where the top is, it is pretty soul destroying as you tend to see a corner approaching thinking that it is the top, only to find that it turns and keeps going, and it does it about three times.

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Yea! That one! It's a killer!! Doesn't end so quick. But I loved it. Want to do it again :D

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Postby weiyun » 24 Aug 2009, 18:21

I think we commonly call that the Artillary Hill climb.

I am surprised you didn't complain about the Waterfall climb in your Audley-Waterfall loop. The top of that climb hits 12%.

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Postby jimmy » 24 Aug 2009, 18:25

I think that the difference between those two hills is they way they hit 12%.

Waterfall will hit it near the top for a short distance, while Artillery Hill just stays there for about it's entire length. I know that when I do the loop that way that I feel that the end of the Waterfall hill is about the same as Artillery.

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Postby G » 25 Aug 2009, 11:59

I think we commonly call that the Artillary Hill climb.

I am surprised you didn't complain about the Waterfall climb in your Audley-Waterfall loop. The top of that climb hits 12%.
Wow! Didn't know about that. That's because I never came across the waterfall climb I guess. Instead of turning right to waterfall, I went further to the Stainwell Tops. :D

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Postby jimmy » 20 Sep 2009, 16:03

Well done to Julian and Peter who came out this morning for a jaunt through the park.

Especially well done to Julian, who despite having been sick, put in some hard yakka on the front, and then hit the wall in spectacular fashion after Flat Rock Creek, but still struggled on to the Top of Waterfall.

He ended up calling his Dad up at Sutherland and getting a lift back home. He was well and truly spent.

The next ride is on the October Long Weekend.

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Postby G » 20 Sep 2009, 18:55

Well done to Julian and Peter who came out this morning for a jaunt through the park.

Especially well done to Julian, who despite having been sick, put in some hard yakka on the front, and then hit the wall in spectacular fashion after Flat Rock Creek, but still struggled on to the Top of Waterfall.

He ended up calling his Dad up at Sutherland and getting a lift back home. He was well and truly spent.

The next ride is on the October Long Weekend.

James
Wot's the most spectacular fashion to hit the wall?

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Postby G » 16 Oct 2009, 15:55

At wot time does the ride start? I want to do the Audley climb on Sunday.

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Postby weiyun » 16 Oct 2009, 16:02

Fasties RNP leaves at 6am.

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Postby G » 16 Oct 2009, 16:04

Wicked!

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Postby G » 18 Oct 2009, 11:34

ze montain climb~~ :D

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Postby goneriding » 15 Nov 2009, 11:54

Thought I'd drop a note to thank James for the ride through RNP, especially the waiting at the top of the climbs and all the hard work out the front.

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Postby jimmy » 15 Nov 2009, 12:36

Elliot

Glad you enjoyed the ride, it was a good work out for me, so I had a lot of fun as well. I wasn't functioning the best at Unicycle Hockey this week, but it was still a good game.

You will have to come along at the beginning of December for the other Direction.

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Postby goneriding » 15 Nov 2009, 19:23

If I am in town and I have recovered from today's ride, I'll be sure to avoid it like the plague:)

On the way home I managed to break a spoke. Luck was with me as I did it right outside a bike shop.

The couch has had a serious workout today.

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Postby G » 02 Dec 2009, 16:50

It is a budgy smuggler ride this Sunday. As per the tradition, I will buy coffee to all those who will do it in budgy smugglers. I have a 32" floro lime budgy smuggler for anyone who is interested but don't have a pair.

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Postby jimmy » 03 Dec 2009, 06:40

And on that note, I think I will be missing this week's RNP Ride.

James

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Postby PeterOS » 03 Dec 2009, 07:56

And on that note, I think I will be missing this week's RNP Ride.

James

James are you for real your not riding RNP weekend ??

I've finished all my racing for a while so RNP was back on the books for me.

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Postby jimmy » 03 Dec 2009, 08:42

I'll make a deal with G, if he doesn't wear budgie smugglers, I won't drop him on the climbs.

I will be out riding this weekend regardless. I am trying to get my k's up over 10,000 on the road bike for the year. I was aiming for 12, but I had a few quiet months.

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Postby G » 03 Dec 2009, 09:01

And on that note, I think I will be missing this week's RNP Ride.

James
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It is because of people like you that men have to wear boardies. :? :(
Why James? Why? :?:

Calling off the budgy smuggler ride. There's a Bondi to Bronte 2.4km swim that Jules and I are doing on Sunday morning. I am keen to do RNP ride on Saturday instead. Any takers? James, you want to increase your kms for the year iniit?

If no takers, then I will do the Audley climb polka dot jersey challenge I talked about. That is climbing the Audley climb five times without any break makes you eligible to wear polka dot jersey to the club rides. Too easy!

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Postby weiyun » 03 Dec 2009, 09:40

If no takers, then I will do the Audley climb polka dot jersey challenge I talked about. That is climbing the Audley climb five times without any break makes you eligible to wear polka dot jersey to the club rides. Too easy!
Don't forget the climb speed can't be below 20km/h for all 5 times. Or you aren't eligible.

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Postby mikesbytes » 03 Dec 2009, 09:57

G, I didn't wear your pokadot jersey, just displayed it to the class, so its ready for you to use it

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Postby G » 03 Dec 2009, 09:58

Don't forget the climb speed can't be below 20km/h for all 5 times. Or you aren't eligible.
20km/hr? :shock: :shock: :shock:
Are you on bad marijuana or wot? I say, let me attempt it first, and if I manage to do it, I will share the G-unit data on the forum. Then we can see wot speed I did it at.

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Postby weiyun » 03 Dec 2009, 10:09

20km/hr? :shock: :shock: :shock:
Stop making excuses! It's 20km/h up those 5 hill repeats or not worthy of the polkadot. We have to have some real standards for the club. :P

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Postby G » 03 Dec 2009, 10:29

Stop making excuses! It's 20km/h up those 5 hill repeats or not worthy of the polkadot. We have to have some real standards for the club. :P
Wouldn't I just die?

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Postby mikesbytes » 03 Dec 2009, 14:02

Yeh 20kph. Some of the shallower ones would be 25kph

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Postby T-Bone » 03 Dec 2009, 19:35

I can do that! just need to recalibrate my computer.... i'm positive it's not reading correctly... :wink:

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Postby G » 07 Dec 2009, 00:08

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Did Artillery hill climb (Audley in climb) 5 times without break in 40 min. It's 500m ascend in 1.5km.
I climbed it 5 times and descended it 4 times. That means, my overrall speed = (1.5 x 5 + 1.5 x 4)/(40/60) = 20.25km/hr

Weiyun, now I get to wear the polka dot jersey :D
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Postby weiyun » 07 Dec 2009, 04:52

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Did Artillery hill climb (Audley in climb) 5 times without break in 40 min. It's 500m ascend in 1.5km.
I climbed it 5 times and descended it 4 times. That means, my overrall speed = (1.5 x 5 + 2.5 x 4)/(40/60) = 20.25km/hr

Weiyun, now I get to wear the polka dot jersey :D
Well done on the five times bit, G. But you need to clarify a number of issues before your entitlement to the polkadot.

1) What did you mean by "Artillery Hill"? The real Artillery hill is to the south side of Audley weir and is 2.54km in length. If you did the hill on the north side of the weir? Then that's not Artillery Hill.

2) Artillery Hill has an elevation gain of no more than 150m. Not sure where you got that 500m ascent numbers from? Even Waterfall only has an elevation of around 250m above sea level.

3) How did you do 1.5km on the climb and 2.5km on the descent to get back to your starting point? There's only one road there.

http://www.cycle2max.com.au/bike-hill-c ... px?id=1451

So both DHBC and Guiness Book Record's certification authorities have questions about your achievement. Until they are adequately addressed, polkadot will have to wait. :wink:

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Postby G » 07 Dec 2009, 07:03

Well done on the five times bit, G. But you need to clarify a number of issues before your entitlement to the polkadot.

1) What did you mean by "Artillery Hill"? The real Artillery hill is to the south side of Audley weir and is 2.54km in length. If you did the hill on the north side of the weir? Then that's not Artillery Hill.

2) Artillery Hill has an elevation gain of no more than 150m. Not sure where you got that 500m ascent numbers from? Even Waterfall only has an elevation of around 250m above sea level.

3) How did you do 1.5km on the climb and 2.5km on the descent to get back to your starting point? There's only one road there.

http://www.cycle2max.com.au/bike-hill-c ... px?id=1451

So both DHBC and Guiness Book Record's certification authorities have questions about your achievement. Until they are adequately addressed, polkadot will have to wait. :wink:
Thanks Weiyun!

1) Audley in climb is the south side of the creek. I guess the real climb is 1.5km, but there is gentle gradient that goes on for another km, which isn't challenging. Instead it would give recovery time, and beat the purpose of attempting it without a break. I took a u-turn from the crust few meters after "Watch out for trucks" sign at the top of the hill.

2) I plotted the elevation on mapmyride.com ... dont know why it thinks it is 500m elevation.
3) Typo, 1.5km descend. Calculation of speed is based on 1.5k descend and not 2.5km.

There were some motorcyclists chilling out at the creek. When the saw me go up and down that climb. They had a strange look on their faces when they saw me go up and down that hill. I think they couldnt guess why I was doing it. I was thinking the same in my third attempt up hill.

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Postby Peter T » 07 Dec 2009, 07:23

Well done G.

Glad you survived.

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Postby weiyun » 07 Dec 2009, 07:25

Thanks Weiyun!

1) Audley in climb is the south side of the creek. I guess the real climb is 1.5km, but there is gentle gradient that goes on for another km, which isn't challenging. Instead it would give recovery time, and beat the purpose of attempting it without a break. I took a u-turn from the crust few meters after "Watch out for trucks" sign at the top of the hill.

2) I plotted the elevation on mapmyride.com ... dont know why it thinks it is 500m elevation.
3) Typo, 1.5km descend. Calculation of speed is based on 1.5k descend and not 2.5km.
Ok, so you were on the correct climb and good job on the 20km/h average. Although the original rule was that you can't go below 20km/h at any point along the ride, you'll receive an exemption for being the leader in this challenge and we won't give you a hard time for wearing a polkadot jersey. :lol: :lol: :lol:

MapMyRide and most other online mapping services are notoriously inaccurate with their elevation data. Use with care.
There were some motorcyclists chilling out at the creek. When the saw me go up and down that climb. They had a strange look on their faces when they saw me go up and down that hill. I think they couldnt guess why I was doing it. I was thinking the same in my third attempt up hill.
They were watching your budgie smuggler undies! :lol:

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Postby jimmy » 12 Jan 2010, 06:00

How much interest is there in the club for these rides to continue? I know that I haven't been there for the last couple of rides, but it has felt that most of the time there is usually only 1 or 2 other riders who are doing these.

James

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Postby weiyun » 12 Jan 2010, 08:56

James, I think it is a very valuable hard core training option for the club and I can say that I certainly have benefited through it. The hard part for me is the earlier start (due to my distance) but would certainly love to do more of it. Otherwise I understand that young Julian has been an enthusiastic participant.

Are you no longer riding this route on a regular basis? I think it's also not appropriate for these rides to be a burden on you.

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Postby G » 12 Jan 2010, 09:16

I love these rides, and will be doing more of them through RNP (...extending up to wollong0ong/buli pass in the coming couple of months). It is fantastic to have James on these rides as he gets us to push it harder, but I understand he can't be burdened with these rides.

James, whenever you wish to ride, just let us know through the forum. I will try to join you as often as I can.

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Postby mikesbytes » 12 Jan 2010, 12:55

James, I've heard the odd comment from middie riders that they would love to do it, but its a bit too fast, so one suggestion is to make the Waterfall in Audley out ride a middie ride and leave the other one as it is

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Postby paul » 18 Jan 2010, 20:05

Two of us did this ride on Saturday, John and myself, and we saw one more DHBC rider in the Park.
As a middie rider, I'd love to do it more often.
It is certainly more of a challenge than Waterfall.

Paul

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Postby JonB » 18 Jan 2010, 20:34

T'was a great ride and a perfect day to be riding through the RNP. Pleased someone turned up as I wouldn't have known where to go :)

I can't understand why more people wouldn't want to do this ride. Certainly much more scenic and traffic free than riding down the freeway to Waterfall and back.

Fingers crossed it'll put us in good shape for this weekend's Alpine Classic. Gulp....

Jon.

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Postby G » 18 Jan 2010, 21:32

I thought only I did the ride solo?! There was no one at Mick's shop. You guys missed me?!!!!!! :?

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Postby JonB » 19 Jan 2010, 20:35

I thought only I did the ride solo?! There was no one at Mick's shop. You guys missed me?!!!!!! :?
Judging by the progress you had made into the pancake "stack" by the time we arrive back at the cafe, I'd say you missed us ;)

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Postby PeterOS » 30 Jan 2010, 17:34

is this ride on for 31/01/10 ?

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Postby Stuart » 04 Mar 2010, 13:48

Has this previously regular ride been abandoned? If so I need to update the home page and the road sections of the website. Can Jimmy or Mike or somebody who knows respond please.

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Postby jimmy » 05 Mar 2010, 06:19

I haven't been on it for a while, and I am unwilling to commit to running it at this time.

If someone else wants to take over they are welcome to.

James

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Postby MarkL » 06 Mar 2010, 13:07

l'm thinking of doing RNP tomorrow, anyone interested?
If not, l'll do W/fall :)

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Postby weiyun » 06 Mar 2010, 14:00

Irrespective of whether James would come back to run this ride, I'd like to say a big thanks to his commitment to this ride over the last few years. James' extensive knowledge of the routes/climbs and general cycling matters was second to none. Through James' encouragements and support, I learnt to tackle those RNP hills with greater confidence. Your regular absence would be greatly missed and is a loss to the club.

See you on a climb soon!


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