Anyone had any experience with Planet X Titanium frames?

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Postby Richard » 25 Aug 2010, 14:50

Anyone had any experience with Planet X Titanium frames?

They look good value but I am interested in finding out from someone who has ridden one.

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Postby shrubb face » 25 Aug 2010, 16:22

james and john are ur 2 guys for this question. They have both owned one for a while.

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Postby T-Bone » 25 Aug 2010, 17:04

Mine has been flawless so far. I've got it built up with and Alpha Q GS-10 fork and Cane Creek 110 headset. The Frame is stiff enough and rides predictably.

Anything specific you want to know? let me know.

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Postby Richard » 25 Aug 2010, 18:46

My current carbon bike sometimes get a shimmy that scares the s..t out of me on high speed descents. I want a bike that descends like its on rails yet comfortable enough to ride all day for long Audax rides.

The Planet X site has a sportive version of the frame that also looks interesting.

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Postby NOOG » 25 Aug 2010, 21:09

I love mine.
Lynskey built...you can't go wrong.

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Postby Toff » 25 Aug 2010, 22:52

My current carbon bike sometimes get a shimmy that scares the s..t out of me on high speed descents.
Sounds like an Oppy.

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Postby weller » 26 Aug 2010, 10:30

Go the Baum - absolutely sensational!!!
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Postby geoffs » 27 Aug 2010, 11:32

We had a rider in recently who was a gun rider in his day (olympics klio rep) who's dad gave him a lightspeed (made when they were good- don't buy a new one!) Ti frame nearly 20yrs ago. The parts have just been upgraded to 10sp chorus that much richer mate had given him and someone is scouting for a decent carbon fork at the right price so he can use an Ahead stem and a modern handlebar. When this is done the bike will be as new again and be good for at least another 20yrs apart from consumables.

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Postby Richard » 27 Aug 2010, 13:45

I saw at Steve Hogg's a beautiful 'Seven' brand Ti frame but it is unfortunately beyond my severly limited budget.

One can always dream ............

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Postby geoffs » 27 Aug 2010, 15:36

yes well i wasn't going to mention them.
Marian likes hers though as it correct size for her

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Postby Timbo » 31 Aug 2010, 16:46

Anthony Challinor at Velofix at Rozelle is gearing up to sell titanium bikes he's had custom built. I haven't been on one myself (I'm a steel man - my 'nago Master never shimmies) but they've been tested heavily by Anthony and his offsider Jose and are apparently awesome.

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Postby Richard » 11 Sep 2010, 13:02

Just had a test ride of the Ti bikes from Anthony at Velofix.
Very fast, more responsive and increased road feel than my carbon bike.

He had it set up with the new DuraAce. Nice...

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Postby micklan » 12 Sep 2010, 12:04

Apparently these are good: Lynskey range from Tennessee USA.

http://www.lynskeyperformance.com

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Postby Stuart » 27 Sep 2010, 14:17

Apparently these are good: Lynskey range from Tennessee USA.
http://www.lynskeyperformance.com
Yeah, at these prices they'd want to be!
PRO BUILD CUSTOM MSRP FORK
Level 1 frame only $3,595 N/A
Level 2 frame only $3,995 N/A
Level 3 frame only $4,295 N/A
Level 4 frame only $5,295 N/A

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Postby T-Bone » 27 Sep 2010, 20:28

Planet X Ti frames are made by Lynskey, and at current exchange rates, just over $1200AUD. A fair bit cheaper than when i got mine.

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Postby orphic » 27 Sep 2010, 20:45

How much does your frame weight James?

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Postby kiwiames » 28 Sep 2010, 09:04

Im considering going the Planet X ti frame. I think the frame weighs about 1400 grams - all tho correct me if im wrong. It depends on size of the frame as well. by what ive seen and heard they look excellent quality for money.i might go that way ahead of carbon. Not an easy dicision to make.

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Postby christian » 28 Sep 2010, 09:10

The decision between carbon and titanium is easy. Do you want a bike that will last 10+ years or 3 - 5 years (or less if you crash it). A good carbon frame is going to be stiffer and lighter the titanium, but a good carbon frame will cost more then $1200.

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Postby weiyun » 28 Sep 2010, 09:30

The decision between carbon and titanium is easy.
Nothing is easy in bike equipment choice, and durability is but one parameter in the decision tree if one cares to be truly objective.

1) CF does not degrade over 3-5 years. There's plenty that hangs around for much longer than that. No, CF does not explode on contact with water, and are certainly going to hang around given the number of commercial airliners using CF parts. And no, CF frames do not fail with any crash. Pro-tour riders show us plenty of that and just ride on.

2) Ti the material may be relatively inert and remain stable for 1000+ years, but that does not mean a Ti bike frame may last that long. There's plenty of reports and photos of Ti frame failures on the net, with cracks going through the weld and into the tube/s. And to re-weld Ti is no simple home job, one that led to people dispose the whole frame. So on this account, many are weary of less reputable Ti frame manufacturers. And given the relatively limited quality variations in the tubing stock out there, weld quality is the key.

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Postby christian » 28 Sep 2010, 09:53

I guess I didn't explain my point very well. The thread is about the planet-x frame, which is about $1200. I'd consider a $1200 carbon frame to be cheap and would be pretty happy if it lasted 5 years. Of course you are going to expect a high end carbon frame to last longer. I ride a cheap carbon frame ($820 for frame and fork) and when I purchased it I figured that if I got more then 12 months out of it I'd be happy, its now 18 months old. In saying all this I actually want to get a carbon mountain bike, but I'm not expecting it to last more then 5 years.

I agree that the welds are very important, I've cracked the weld on a aluminium bike. The planet-x frames come from the Lynsky factory, so the welds are going to be pretty good.

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Postby weiyun » 28 Sep 2010, 10:06

Don't worry, be happy!

I wouldn't worry too much about a "cheap" CF frame these days. To my understanding, many of these "cheap" CF frames are built by well establish or even big name CF frame factories in East Asia. And the reason they are cheap is primarily because they don't have a big premium on brand name, not using the most talked about CF fibre in the latest cycling rag or have a shape that certain Pro-team star rides. So I doubt your CF would fall apart or start to under-perform in 5 years unless it's being abused or being crashed in an unfavourable way, it's but in a similar relationship as Planet-X, but CF. Ti material still costs more than "plastic" and PBK attracts a bigger premium than an eBay shop in Taiwan. And $850 amortised over 5 years or however long is but a personal choice.

Otherwise yes, I agree the Planet-X Ti frame is a definite short list candidate for anyone interested in Ti.

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Postby AnthonyI » 28 Sep 2010, 10:26

The planet-x frames come from the Lynsky factory
I'm also keen on a new frame (possibly Ti) and noticed on the Planet X site that "the new versions of the Ti Pro Road will be produced by Van Nicholas" instead of Lynskey.

see review section of this page..http://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/i/q/FRP ... road-frame

Don't know if this is a good or bad thing.

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Postby T-Bone » 28 Sep 2010, 10:40

From memory, my large size frame weighed around 1350g, can't remember exactly.

Van Nicholas make some very nice frames, so there'll be no reduction in quality, but you'll probably have to wait for them to come in, as there's only a couple of large Ti frames in stock at the moment.

Other things to remember are that you will have to buy forks, headset, etc.


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