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Lizanne
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Postby Lizanne » 22 Nov 2010, 14:15

I'm looking for a deal on groupsets.
i'm thinking about the Campagnolo Veloce groupset or a Shimano Ultegra groupset.

I'm building up an old steel frame so if anyone has a better idea i'm open to suggestions.
I've checked out the usual suspects of ribble and wiggle, i'm just wondering if there was a set sitting in someone’s garage or a bike shop(last years set?) for sale or going for cheep.

Thanks

here's the bike!

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Toff
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Postby Toff » 23 Nov 2010, 12:41

I thought you already had a groupset, and just needed a bike.

PBK does cheap groupsets. They currently have Centaur (better than Veloce) for $756.21 in both compact and normal.

http://www.probikekit.com/display.php?code=X0160

Here's the catch. The shortest crank that Campagnolo currently makes is 170mm in any groupset. I reckon you should buy a 165mm crank, and whilst 170 is going to be much better than the 175mm you are currently riding, it's not as good as 165mm.

I would recommend an e-mail to Steve Hogg to confirm this before you buy. He will probably give you an answer without charging, at least for the first reply. I see injury coming your way eventually if you keep riding such big cranks.

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Postby Trouty » 23 Nov 2010, 13:28

I thought you already had a groupset, and just needed a bike.

PBK does cheap groupsets. They currently have Centaur (better than Veloce) for $756.21 in both compact and normal.

http://www.probikekit.com/display.php?code=X0160

Here's the catch. The shortest crank that Campagnolo currently makes is 170mm in any groupset. I reckon you should buy a 165mm crank, and whilst 170 is going to be much better than the 175mm you are currently riding, it's not as good as 165mm.

I would recommend an e-mail to Steve Hogg to confirm this before you buy. He will probably give you an answer without charging, at least for the first reply. I see injury coming your way eventually if you keep riding such big cranks.
Lizanne: I gather you are taller than me, but from memory not that much taller. I rode with 170's for ages and actually run 155's now and love it. You probably dont need to get that drastic but Shimano and Sram do 165mm which is much more suited to you. So if you are starting from scratch - may aswell get some thing more suited to your size. At this stage you don't need to go to Steve Hogg which will cost you. You are welcome to test ride both my bikes which have shorter cranks than you need but will give you an idea of how they feel or the difference.

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Postby shrubb face » 23 Nov 2010, 13:45

Blimy, I cant believe you currently run 175mm, thats that same as I ride.

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Postby Toff » 23 Nov 2010, 13:54

I'm sure Steve Hogg will answer a basic question put to him in e-mail form without charging. I read it once, but I can't remember if it was on his website or in his newsletter. He won't enter into a dialogue, but he will send a reply with an answer.

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Postby Trouty » 23 Nov 2010, 15:09

I'm sure Steve Hogg will answer a basic question put to him in e-mail form without charging. I read it once, but I can't remember if it was on his website or in his newsletter. He won't enter into a dialogue, but he will send a reply with an answer.
Save her the money and Steve's time, I know exactly what he is going to say as I have been through it in detail with him. He is all for the shorter cranks and uses your hieght as a guide unless you have disproportionate legs or torso to your body, this is what the majority of articles on the web say. I'm 153cm tall - I ran 155,s. Stuart who is a giant with long legs compared to me is currently running what Lizanne runs - so it's obvious she shouldn't be running that size.

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Postby jbcow » 23 Nov 2010, 15:14

Sorry to go off topic but that's a nice steel frame.

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Postby mikesbytes » 23 Nov 2010, 18:53

Sorry to go off topic but that's a nice steel frame.
Yeh retro bike porn

I run 170 & 172.5. I don't know Lizanne's inseam measurement but I'd guess 160 - 165. With 175's you would be running higher gears to reduce the foot velocity.

If the current leavers are destined for the bin, then I'll have them as I want that shape for my fixie

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Postby Eleri » 23 Nov 2010, 19:20

I'm about the same height as you and Jo and I've got 165s on both my bikes. That's what Steve reckoned I needed.

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Postby Trouty » 24 Nov 2010, 05:13

I'm about the same height as you and Jo and I've got 165s on both my bikes. That's what Steve reckoned I needed.
So 165's would be the right size for Lizanne rather than the 175mms. Not many people would need to go as short as me as I've got extra short legs than normal people.

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Postby Lizanne » 24 Nov 2010, 08:11

Thanks Guys!
and ya ya i know my cranks are too long... i have a pink bike :mrgreen:
@ mike when i do get new cranks you can have the old ones

i was planning on going 165's(or whatever the cranks are on the jr track bike i've been riding, they feel great) for this one. and it's nice to be on a bike that actually fits me. i'll bring it by the track tonight. i fnially have it in a semi-rideable state. i'm a little short on the bike funds right now so ther is no real rush for getting a group set. i just wanted to put it out there just incase anyone saw a deal.

and ya the bike is hot! i've been looking for a few years for something that looks good in my size and the waiting has finally paid off. i can't wait to get it on the road.

see ya tonight

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Postby Lizanne » 15 Mar 2011, 12:22

i have just found a second hand DA group set on gumtree. The dude i'm talking too seems to be fairly clueless(just like me)

http://sydney.gumtree.com.au/c-Stuff-fo ... Z267034429

here's the link. he doesn't know hom many k's it's done but said it was in good condition. are there any questions i should ask?
(i already asked what year the groupset was from and crank size)

Thanks

I was also thinking about offereing $400 good idea?

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Postby christian » 15 Mar 2011, 12:37

I'd say the chances of finding a second hand groupset with 165mm cranks isn't very high. So something like this may help fill the gap.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Used-Shimano-105 ... 500wt_1156

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Postby Lizanne » 15 Mar 2011, 13:12

The group is a bb7700
172.5 crank arm

so i'll need the short cranks...

the big chainring loosk like it needs replacing so the cassette probabally will need a change too.

is it worth getting?

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Postby rhys » 19 Mar 2011, 15:20

Do you only have the frame, or do you have the parts that are on it in that picture?
If you do have the parts, are they 600 or Dura ace brifters? Those go for heaps, and would possibly pay for half your groupset. I just sold some clapped-out Dura ace 8-speed 7400 brifters (similar to those pictured) for $200. The 600 ones go for around the same so maybe look at selling some of your parts. If it helps you get better ones, it's worth it.

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Postby T-Bone » 19 Mar 2011, 20:21

The group is a bb7700
......
is it worth getting?
Sounds like 9spd Dura-Ace. You're best going with 10spd these days for the ease of finding parts or borrowing stuff.

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Postby mikesbytes » 19 Mar 2011, 20:24

Sounds like 9spd Dura-Ace. You're best going with 10spd these days for the ease of finding parts or borrowing stuff.
+1 go 10 speed


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