The Saga that is Lance

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Postby weiyun » 09 Jan 2013, 19:19

Choosing Oprah as your vehicle to tell your story screams wanting to try control the story to me.
Hardly surprising. Who would crucify oneself unnecessarily.

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Postby GregPankhurst » 10 Jan 2013, 09:04

Important to have this at hand for the interview

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Postby Bill K CX » 10 Jan 2013, 09:05

Oprah promises tough Armstrong grilling

"Armstrong has no editorial control and no question is off-limits," Nicole Nichols of Winfrey's OWN cable TV network told AFP in an email, adding that the disgraced cyclist is getting no payment for the interview.

http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/ne ... g-grilling


do we have room for a few shrimps on this grill? :wink:

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Postby GregPankhurst » 10 Jan 2013, 16:51

I know gambling isn't everyone's forte, but this did make me laugh

http://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/ent ... -interview

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Postby jimmy » 11 Jan 2013, 04:57

There's an article on SMH (http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cycling/cri ... 2cj2i.html) saying pretty much the same as people here.

As has already been said, I think that Lance is going to try and paint himself as a victim, I read something that Tyler wrote and he basically said that he couldn't handle the guilt that he was experiencing in relation to the accolades that he received when he rode with his broken collarbone, and that was one of the reasons that he ended up coming clean. He stated that Lance wasn't like that.

I like the game of Lance Bingo, I think that at least half of those phrases will come out of his mouth. But ultimately Lance will try and paint himself as the good guy who did what he did in order to be competitive.

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Postby jimmy » 14 Jan 2013, 07:54

I wonder if we're going to see the 5 stages of denial as well shown in this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_Z3lmidmrY (NSFW)

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Postby Bill K CX » 15 Jan 2013, 19:20

LA confesses

http://m.smh.com.au/sport/cycling/armst ... z.html#nav

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Postby mr mojo » 15 Jan 2013, 19:51

If you have Foxtel and want to watch the interview, it will be shown at 1pm this Friday on the Discovery Channel (quite fitting actually).

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Postby simon.sharwood » 16 Jan 2013, 14:13

The Onion has nailed it: "Lance Armstrong Admits To Using Performance-Enhancing Drugs To Show Remorse"

http://www.theonion.com/articles/lance- ... nci,30912/

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Postby timyone » 20 Jan 2013, 18:25

Hey is there any where to watch it back?

I thought it funny that it was on the discovery Chanel by the way

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Postby marc2131 » 20 Jan 2013, 18:44


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Postby timyone » 21 Jan 2013, 07:40

Why thank you

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Postby jimmy » 21 Jan 2013, 09:21

I like the fact that Lance doesn't think that he cheated.

So, let's apply a little bit of formal logic to it.

Premise 1: Cheating occurs when you break the rules
Premise 2: Doping is against the rules
Premise 3: Lance Doped
Conclusion: Lance Cheated.

yeah, Lance sure you didn't cheat, you did something against the rules to get an advantage over other riders. I don't care if your argument is that everyone was doing it. It doesn't wash, everyone wasn't doing it. OK so may some of the better riders where, but that is still a long way from "everyone". If you want to throw statements like that around, you need to be able to back it up, I can shoot your argument down by presenting one clean rider, and as soon as that happens, you're a cheat.

From my point of view, the lifetime ban is fair, you cheated, you ran a sophisticated doping operation in the team, and you defrauded other riders.

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Postby Hung » 21 Jan 2013, 10:01

Heard on the radio this morning

"how did lance win 7 TDF

he was positive about it :)"

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Postby AliG » 21 Jan 2013, 21:20

I'm sure there are many more gems to remind us of what Lance USED to sound like, but this one is good.

'Fucking Walsh, fucking little troll, casting his spell on people, liar. I've won six Tours. I've done everything I ever could do to prove my innocence. I have done, outside of cycling, way more than anyone in the sport. To be somebody who's spread himself out over a lot of areas, to hopefully be somebody who people in this city, this state, this country, this world can look up to as an example. And you know what? They don't even know who David Walsh is. And they never will. And in 20 years nobody is going to remember him. Nobody.' Lance Armstrong, 2004.

Walsh seems to be the master of understatement. After the first interview, he said, "he certainly used the word arrogant about himself and I think that's fair."

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Postby simon.sharwood » 23 Jan 2013, 07:13

This is apparently a Banksy
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Postby GregPankhurst » 23 Jan 2013, 10:09

Great article by Paul Kimmage on the Lance Armstrong interviews: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/ja ... ng-cycling

For those that don't know the backstory on Kimmage, he was has publically called Pharmstrong a doper for years - they had a pretty solid stoush at the Tour of California presser in 2009 when Kimmage called him a cancer on the sport. Alongside Walsh, he's probably been the most public voice on the topic.


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