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Postby mikesbytes » 11 Apr 2011, 14:10

What's the deal on protein powder at the moment, where's the good pricing? Do we need to do a group buy?

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Postby tedrobin » 11 Apr 2011, 16:21

Or do we first need a discussion on whether it does any good and/or is safe and wise to take?

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Postby tedrobin » 11 Apr 2011, 16:59

My kids are mad for it, the crazy little coots. It's all a bit new-fangled for me. Isn't this the stuff that shrinks your testicles to the size of raisins?

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Postby timyone » 11 Apr 2011, 21:05

o so thats what did it...

im only halfway through the tub i bought last time we did this, though im using it steadily..

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Postby rhys » 11 Apr 2011, 22:15

The way I understand it, your body needs to rebuild muscle after you flog yourself silly during a workout/training session. You'll rebuild quicker and better if you give yourself some protein powder instead of your body cannibalising itself while you sleep and rebuilding from fat stores etc. (I'm probably wrong but this works in my head)
I take a shaker to practice sometimes. If I've been running a hard gear, or been riding BMX for a few hours I'll have some and I very rarely wake up sore.

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Postby mikesbytes » 11 Apr 2011, 23:13

Protein is in products such as cheese and chicken.

The use of protein powder is to increase the consumption of protein. I use it selectively when the food I'm eating doesn't have the quantities of protein I prefer to consume.

So back to the actual topic. What's the current deals on protein powder and who's interested in a group buy?

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Postby Lizanne » 12 Apr 2011, 08:29

if you just want protein the best tasteing and cheep stuff is home made. skim milk powder with milo, nesquick, or malt. depends on what taste you have. (seriously check out the protein content on skim mikl powder it's good stuff).
but if it's recovery stuff you want creatine is the way to go.
but for me i'm just on high quality fish oil and lots of eating.

and mike my boyfriend is an exercise physiologist. he does bulk orders of all this stuff for his buisness so i say have a chat with him, he knows more than me.

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Postby mikesbytes » 12 Apr 2011, 21:44

36% protein, it would work if I double the quantity



Though the lactose quantities could be a problem for me, as I'm a little low on a particular en-zine that breaks it down. I'll see what happens

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Postby christian » 13 Apr 2011, 08:20

I need some, I find if I have some after training I don't need to eat again as I have dinner before coming down to the track. I usually get my stuff from http://purenutrition.com.au/

I like plain protein powder that way I can add my own flavours, the winning combination is caramel topping and banana quick.

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Postby christian » 13 Apr 2011, 09:06

This is the one I have gotten in the past. We put in a big order a couple of years ago but I don't think you get a discount unless you buy the 4.5kg tubs.

http://www.purenutrition.com.au/whey-pr ... e-2kg.html

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Postby mikesbytes » 13 Apr 2011, 13:01

4.5kg is fine by me, its got a long shelf life

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Postby shrubb face » 13 Apr 2011, 15:06

Im interested in a 4.5kg group order if anyone else is in.

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Postby Stuart » 13 Apr 2011, 18:34

Thought this might contribute something to the discussion: read the first article here >> http://www.rachelneylan.com/ - it's a plug for a sponsor but also contains a link to something called:
Research article;Cook et al (2010) Whey protein isolate attenuates strength decline after eccentrically-induced muscle damage in healthy individuals Journal of the International Society of Sports Nutrition. Volume 7, Number 1,

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Postby timyone » 14 Apr 2011, 10:22

Hey im in too

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Postby T-Bone » 14 Apr 2011, 11:21

I'm not sure if i need 4.5kg of Protein Powder (i'll think on it). I do need some maltodextrin though.

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Postby christian » 14 Apr 2011, 11:28

It'll take me 12 months to get through 4.5kg of the stuff, but as it is cheaper I'm in.

4.5kg group order
1. shrubb face
2. mikesbytes
3. timyone
4. christian

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Postby mikesbytes » 14 Apr 2011, 12:54

4.5kg group order
1. shrubb face
2. mikesbytes
3. timmyone
4. T-Bone (thinking about it)

I had a look at milk powder at the supermarket, it was $6 for a kilo. At approx 1/3 protein, that works out at about $18 per kilo of protein, a good price.

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Postby mikesbytes » 14 Apr 2011, 19:27

Regardless of all the claims by the providers, protein is protein. The difference between the products tends to come down to the concentration levels and what's with it.

What is more complex is absorption and timing;
1. The body can only process so much protein at a time
2. It only lasts 4 hours in the body
3. Some carbs are required to be consumed with it

So what does this mean;
1. make sure you have some protein with every meal (chicken, fish, cheese etc)
2. have smaller portions and convert the savings to snacks containing protein
3. have some carbs with the protein

Milk powder, as Lizanne has suggested meets the requirement at a reasonable price and contains all the carbs required and some more.
The commercial the protein powder that we are looking at here is more expensive and comes without the carbs. This gives the flexibility to mix it with whatever is your choice, in my case weetbix - breakfast at work.

I'm going both, providing I can confirm that I'm able to digest the quantity of lactose found in milk powder.

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Postby T-Bone » 14 Apr 2011, 23:13

Stuff it, i'm sure i'll benefit from using it, but i also need the maltodextrin.

4.5kg group order
1. shrubb face
2. mikesbytes
3. timyone
4. christian
5. T-Bone (plus 4.5kg maltodextrin)

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Postby PeterOS » 15 Apr 2011, 14:24

I'll be in this if its not to late !
and what does maltodextrin aid in ?

4.5kg group order
1. shrubb face
2. mikesbytes
3. timyone
4. christian
5. T-Bone (plus 4.5kg maltodextrin)
6. PeterOS

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Postby T-Bone » 15 Apr 2011, 14:52

I use maltodextrin to make a cheap electrolyte drink. It's basically a complex carb.

Mixture for 2L (you can vary the sugar contents to suit your taste)
70g Maltodextrin
70g White Sugar
1/4 tsp table salt
1/4 tsp diet salt
3/4 tsp citric acid

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Postby mikesbytes » 15 Apr 2011, 15:27

Can we confirm (with a link) the exact product / sale location we are buying.

I'm happy to put the order in, but someone else needs the delivery address, otherwise it will end up at St Peter's post office that is only open Monday to Friday

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Postby tedrobin » 19 Apr 2011, 16:57

A guy in today's Herald has something to say on the subject of protein supplements:


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Postby timyone » 19 Apr 2011, 19:55

That doesn't really say any thing about it being bad, I've heard bits about kidneys etc, but yeah

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Postby mikesbytes » 19 Apr 2011, 21:44

The issues with kidneys is where you are consuming a seriously high amount and the body is trying to get rid of the excess.

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Postby patn » 21 Apr 2011, 09:03

You don't have to worry about steriods in protein powder made by any reputable brand and sold in Australia... that would be an excuse made by someone who got caught doing the naughty... You do however, have to be very careful with 'pre-workout' formulas and a lot of creatine products. They often contain stimulants which are banned by the UCI.

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Postby timyone » 21 Apr 2011, 09:24

We can use my mailing adress, I'd have to find the previous thread to work out where to go, I normally leave it to Victoria to work out

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Postby mikesbytes » 24 Apr 2011, 13:51

Price works out at $92.50 * 6 = $555.00 + $25.00 for the Maltodextrin

Postage appears to be free

There is an option to enter a discount code, but I can't find any discount codes. Does anyone know a discount code?

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Postby mikesbytes » 25 Apr 2011, 09:18

I take no response as being that no one found a discount code, so I'll put the order in

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Postby mikesbytes » 25 Apr 2011, 10:18

Ho Hum, there checkout process is failing with the following shipping error "Sorry, no quotes are available for this order at this time." couldn't find a solution so I've emailed them

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Postby mikesbytes » 25 Apr 2011, 11:12

Fixed, they responded to my email. I pushed back on the postage and got it for Free. Being delivered to Tim.
Cost is $92.50 each except T-Bone who is $92.50 + $25.00 = $117.50
I'll email out my banking details and you can transfer the money, put your name or nickname in the description so I can see who's paid.

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Postby T-Bone » 25 Apr 2011, 20:31

Thanks Mike!

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Postby timyone » 28 Apr 2011, 20:19

Hey I think the protein powder might be at the post office, I have a heavy package there

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Postby mikesbytes » 28 Apr 2011, 21:22

Should be 2 packages Tim, as per the emails I sent you this morning

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Postby timyone » 28 Apr 2011, 22:15

ummm emails? to which account?

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Postby timyone » 29 Apr 2011, 15:03

This will require the car and me not working in their hours hey. How many are there?

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Postby mikesbytes » 29 Apr 2011, 15:11

Two boxes containing six 4.5kg buckets and one 4.5kg packet

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Postby timyone » 02 May 2011, 13:34

I have the stuff in my car, will have at track tonight. Mike I'm guessing you sent bank details to my hotmail account, I'll have yo have a look in there

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Postby mikesbytes » 02 May 2011, 13:49

I did send to hotmail. email me your current email address.

I cant get to the track till about 9pm, so if your not there when I arrive, I'll make a different arrangement

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Postby timyone » 02 May 2011, 15:46

Face book message is the best, tell me if you would rather an email though, I'll look in my hotmail one when I get home though

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Postby mikesbytes » 09 May 2011, 23:05

Tim, I gave my protein powder to PeterOS, so I need to pick up his. How about the track on Wednesday night

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Postby timyone » 10 May 2011, 09:25

oh cool, i didnt know whos i had left, i assumed it was just james's. i have to remember to put it in the car on wednesday :s theres a slight chance ill forget due to uni beforehand etc

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Postby T-Bone » 10 May 2011, 11:36

i just need to remember to get mine off you. I forgot last week.

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Postby timyone » 10 May 2011, 11:38

yeah i keep meaning to drop it past your place james

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Postby mikesbytes » 12 May 2011, 11:06

Thanks for the message Tim, I can't come by the track next week. Can I drop by your place around 8.15pm tonight?


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