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Postby mikesbytes » 14 Dec 2010, 12:04

I've been thinking about adjusting my weight by about 5kg. But what I'm unsure about is the impact on strength. In the end do I just end up with the same performance as I'm 5kg weaker?

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Postby Hung » 14 Dec 2010, 16:07

I can see why not

I was strongest and had my best endurance when i was 70kg ( single )

now I'm 85kg ( married ) and I sruggle with everything

I feel strenght and endurance is not proportionly relative to size

look at Lance after his chemo he lost 20lb's but still maintained his strenght and endurance

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Postby timyone » 14 Dec 2010, 17:32

im trying to get down to 70 or so, if i get down to it ill take you on in a sprint mike, how much do you weigh now? im about 73, ill take you on in a sprint now as well if you like, how much do you weigh?

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Postby NOOG » 14 Dec 2010, 18:01

When I was doing a lot of base km work at the beginning of the year I was about 7-8kg heavier than I am now.....losing the weight definitely helped me with endurance and hills, but you have to have the base to start off with....It definitely didn't help with my sprint at all.

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Postby Stuart » 14 Dec 2010, 18:14

I find that drinking lots of beer and eating great food helps you put on weight but it doesn't seem to have helped my sprint at all ... I mean, I was 72kgs when I met Joanne and now I'm lots., lots heavier than that

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Postby Anthony » 14 Dec 2010, 18:59

Start of this year i was about 74-75kg, that was after riding to Melbourne and training with John. My climbing/hill riding and endurance was probably at it's best. Now with alot less riding and alot more weight training, i'm 82kg. I feel like i have more power in my legs and i feel faster. But Waterfall and Thursday rollers seem alot harder. In hindsight, it probably would've been better to still have that endurance and weigh in at 74kg.

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Postby orphic » 14 Dec 2010, 19:59

I find that just doing whatever the hell you want and eating and drinking when you like is really quite preferable to caring about all of that stuff. I just toured towing 28kg, and it was hard to begin with but I got stronger because of it. Does that mean if you weigh more you become stronger? Maybe. If you aren't a professional is it really worth worrying so much about?

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Postby Adrian E » 14 Dec 2010, 21:28

+ 1

I can think of times when I've beaten ultra-skinny riders up hills and failed to keep pace with the big guys. Unless your gunning for A grade I seriously wouldn't worry about it.

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Postby mikesbytes » 14 Dec 2010, 21:33

I'm about 80kg. Good knowledge results in good decisions. Thinking this thru a bit more, I could consider the calendar

Looking at the 2011 NSW calendar the major points of interest are;
Jan - nothing (various track)
Feb - team pursuit
March - Various Masters track championships
April - Canberra Tour
May - Masters road and criterion championships, Ken Dinnerval
June - TTT championships
July onwards - A chunk of the schedule is missing but basically a couple of road races, the ITT and finishing with the Grafton.
Elite and Kiddies are similar to the masters list above

The point being is that we start the year with power and gravitate towards endurance as the year progresses

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Postby weiyun » 14 Dec 2010, 22:49

mikesbytes wrote:I've been thinking about adjusting my weight by about 5kg. But what I'm unsure about is the impact on strength. In the end do I just end up with the same performance as I'm 5kg weaker?

Completely dependent on where you lose that 5kg. If the loss is in fat, then your power/weight ratio goes up. If you lost in muscle, then you'll lose power, with varying effect on power/weight ratio. And this is the obvious reason why clenbuterol is desired as it focuses on fat loss.

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Postby timyone » 14 Dec 2010, 23:05

im gaining muscle and losing weight, im lucky enough to have a big stomach to lose though..

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Postby Hung » 15 Dec 2010, 08:02

timyone wrote:im gaining muscle and losing weight, im lucky enough to have a big stomach to lose though..


same boat but im even luckier I have a bigger stomach to lose

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Postby mikesbytes » 15 Dec 2010, 09:29

Loosing weight is relatively easy, you just calorie deflct by up to 1000 per day. Putting weight on is more difficult.

A plan is forming (quote from batman);
Now - 7th Jan. Don't put any weight on
8th Jan - 31 Jan. Loose 5kg
Feb. Put on 2.5kg
Mar. Put on 2.5kg
April. Loose 2.5kg
May. No change
June. No change
July. Loose 2.5kg
Aug, Sept, Oct. No change

Bear in mind that plan is a 4 lettered word

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Postby weiyun » 15 Dec 2010, 10:27

Don't forget also that your body would accumulate fluid when you are training hard, and that can easily add 1-2kg. Much of the tenseness in your aching muscle can be explained by the fluid accumulation.

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Postby mikesbytes » 15 Dec 2010, 10:33

Yeh, so don't get too hung up with the exact figures

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Postby weiyun » 15 Dec 2010, 10:35

Do the triceps pinch test and see if you can thin down your fat layer. Mine has "grown" a bit in the last 4-5mths. ;)

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Postby mikesbytes » 15 Dec 2010, 10:54

There isn't particularly much fat on my Triceps. What about measuring my waist?

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Postby weiyun » 15 Dec 2010, 10:58

Go and measure your waist and make it a challenge to shrink that!

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Postby mikesbytes » 15 Dec 2010, 11:41

Brought a tape measure at the $2 shop. How do you measure your waist? I get different measurements at different points. The biggest measurement I could get (with business shirt on) was 93cm

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Postby weiyun » 15 Dec 2010, 11:47

There's no "right way". For your purpose, just decide how you want to measure and stay with it eg. Across the pelvis bones on the sides and belly button at the front.

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Postby T-Bone » 15 Dec 2010, 14:46

Your waist should be measured at the narrowest part, usually around the same height as the belly button, but definitely not around the pelvic bones (you're not measuring your hips).

And... My race weight/ off-season weight/ anytime weight is 65-66kg, never seems to change with or without training.

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Postby mikesbytes » 15 Dec 2010, 14:47

OK, I'll use the belly button as the reference point

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Postby weiyun » 15 Dec 2010, 15:39

T-Bone wrote:Your waist should be measured at the narrowest part, usually around the same height as the belly button, but definitely not around the pelvic bones (you're not measuring your hips).

There's nothing definite in this case as Mike is acting as his own control and does not need to conform to the need of waist measurement for tailoring. For Mike's purpose, the criteria for measurement is but to define easily referenced anatomical landmarks. And given this is an external soft tissue measurement (as opposed to CT measurement), the measurement will reflect the thickness of the sub-cutaneous fat that Mike is interested in.

The key is repeatability. So two lateral bony landmarks and a belly button would work fine if so defined.

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Postby Karzie » 15 Dec 2010, 15:42

Mike act as his own control? That's like alcohol industry self regulation!

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Postby weiyun » 15 Dec 2010, 15:50

Karzie wrote:Mike act as his own control? That's like alcohol industry self regulation!

Yes, it's a real worry. So it's critical to implement a highly verifiable system or... :wink:

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Postby mikesbytes » 15 Dec 2010, 15:59

Karzie wrote:Mike act as his own control? That's like alcohol industry self regulation!


LOL, so true

Honestly I don't think there is any method that's going to be that crash hot. My stomach muscles could do with some pilates classes and I don't see a lot of fat on them. I do see some fat just above / in front (not on side) of my hips

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Postby weiyun » 15 Dec 2010, 16:03

mikesbytes wrote:I do see some fat just above / in front (not on side) of my hips

If that's what you want to get rid off, then that's what you should measure. Liposuction and figure sculpting is the alternative. If you need it, I know someone good. :wink:

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Postby rhys » 15 Dec 2010, 16:50

orphic wrote:I find that just doing whatever the hell you want and eating and drinking when you like is really quite preferable to caring about all of that stuff.


I am at this stage in my 'career' where I don't train, do ok, and it's still really fun. If I was to start getting serious and watching what I eat, sure I would probably improve but it wouldn't be as fun for me.
As for your question, I don't think someone of your/my/our standard would notice a power loss/increase for a weight gain/increase too much, unless it was a really drastic loss or gain. You would need some pretty in-depth testing facilities to get a quantifiable number, and if you need a number to tell then it probably hasn't made much of a physical difference.

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Postby Karzie » 15 Dec 2010, 17:34

A 40-something year old man who can climb to Stanwell Park on an 81 inch gear shouldn't be worried about a glimpse of fat near his hips. In fact, take heart, that there still remains some former remnant of your past life! "That part of my hips was there when the earth was young, when FJ Holdens cruised the streets of Newcastle and every schoold child had a bottle of milk for recess".

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Postby mikesbytes » 15 Dec 2010, 19:27

I just checked in the mirror and there's not enough fat around my midriff to use for any meaningful analysis, I think I'm back to scales to measure results.

The reality is that all my road racing failures in 2010 were because I was dropped on a key hill, in most cases only just. Plus at the NSW road racing championships I was dropped going downhill after redlining going up.

A weight drop is just one of several initiatives that need to be undertaken to fix the problem.

Loosing weight is no big deal, the issue is not loosing power at the same time

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Postby rhys » 15 Dec 2010, 20:04

I could probably lose 15kg, I've been in the 90s now for a loooong time. I'm so mad I missed the fat bastards race at RAW, as my bmi is 31 or something ridiculous.
I guess it would come down to the kind of training you have to do, and if you are training for more power would it matter if that made you a little heavier? You'd be able to carry it around a lot easier.

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Postby timyone » 15 Dec 2010, 20:31

i think i did actually lose a few km off my top speed last year when i lost ten kilos and became a roadie, though im about that weight now and i may have a similar top speed, im not sure.

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Postby jbcow » 16 Dec 2010, 07:19

I've been within one kg of 67kg since I turned 18, about, uhm, 18 years ago. I've been slow all that time.

I hope this information helps.

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Postby Lizanne » 16 Dec 2010, 07:25

hey mike send some of the extra fat my way, the ocean swim season has just started and i'm struggling to get my body fat up. It's so cold out there with no extra padding...

oh cookies! gotta go!

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Postby mikesbytes » 16 Dec 2010, 08:19

Lizanne wrote:hey mike send some of the extra fat my way, the ocean swim season has just started and i'm struggling to get my body fat up. It's so cold out there with no extra padding...

oh cookies! gotta go!


Beer

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Postby Lizanne » 16 Dec 2010, 08:25

not today... had too much last night

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Postby mikesbytes » 16 Dec 2010, 12:47

I think you need to get to about 30% BF to achieve positive buoyancy

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Postby christian » 16 Dec 2010, 13:08

In that case no amount of beer or cookies are going to make me float.

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Postby mikesbytes » 24 Dec 2010, 15:31

MMM... have lost 2.5kg despite all the Chrissie parties. So where does this leave the plan to loose the weight from the 10th January?

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Postby Lizanne » 24 Dec 2010, 15:36

you still have christmas breakfast/lunch/dinner to get through *number of family groups you have to visit * the whole thing to do again on boxing day... and what about all the food and beer needed to get through the sydney to hobart and ashes. you still may need to loose the 2.5kg

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Postby MtbAnt » 24 Dec 2010, 16:08

Mike, I think you'd be better served shooting for med-high endurance while maintaining a pretty good sprint (Track + TT + road races is a fair mish mash). I think if you try to do anything other than drop a little fat (5kg in the next couple of months), you risk atrophy due to instable nutrition and caloric intake and also loss of focus on all the different technical skills for those races.

Also, based on your heavy load at FF, I think you are probably best to focus on maintaining a decent sprint, as your base fitness is likely to be excellent and any gaps in your performances due to fatigue rather than a lack of fitness.

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Postby mikesbytes » 24 Dec 2010, 16:54

True I don't have a lot of control over fatigue. I'm not going to worry about it for less important races and try to get classes covered where important classes arise.

The way I teach the spin is more conducive to sprints than the way the other instructors teach it, however it still needs work and the only way I can fit it in is to sprint off the traffic lights. A bit lame but... For the road its hills I need to deal with. Having raced in the NSW masters road racing champs this year, there were some serious attacks on the hills showing the importance of getting quicker on the hills in time for this years NSW champs in Goulburn.

Agree I need to be careful not to loose anything else apart from fat. What is a safe minimum fat level and whats a realistic way of knowing when I'm near it?

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Postby Rainbow » 24 Dec 2010, 17:02

Apparrently men can get down to 6% body fat and still be healthy??? For women's bodies to function at a healthy level it's supposedly 18% body fat. Such disparity!

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Postby mikesbytes » 24 Dec 2010, 17:07

So how do I know when I'm under 10%

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Postby shrubb face » 25 Dec 2010, 11:02

Dont worry mike, you've got a bit to go before you get to 10%. The only person in the club who would be even close to that is James F. I think the lowest ive been is about 12.

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Postby weiyun » 25 Dec 2010, 11:42

MarkL is also a serious contender for the low fat category. I'd close if not lower than JamesF's %.

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Postby mikesbytes » 25 Dec 2010, 17:15

shrubb face wrote:Dont worry mike, you've got a bit to go before you get to 10%. The only person in the club who would be even close to that is James F. I think the lowest ive been is about 12.


That doesn't answer my question

I have more muscle than tbone or markl, so I can't compare scale weight

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Postby Toff » 25 Dec 2010, 19:32

I have a hunch that Timbat might be close to the 10% fat level.

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Postby Lizanne » 25 Dec 2010, 19:54

i was at 18 about a month ago. not a glood fat %

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Postby Anthony » 25 Dec 2010, 20:08

How do you measure body fat % ? Accurately?

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Postby T-Bone » 25 Dec 2010, 22:35

I can't seem to find the values from when i was measured at uni (i don't think we actually needed them for the assignment). From memory i was about 7-9% body fat (can't remember if it was 7 or 9), measured by underwater weighing. I was measured prior to this and i was 12%.

The best way to measure body fat % accurately is through underwater weighing, but using skinfolds is much more accessible. Skinfolds is also fairly accurate provided the most appropriate formula is used to obtain the body fat % value, as the formulas are created using underwater weighing of different subject groups.

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Postby MtbAnt » 26 Dec 2010, 01:23

Hey T-bone (who are you in real life, sorry I don't know your ID), are skin fold and underwater pretty much your only options with regard to measuring body fat percentage (BF%)? I think along with Mike, I need to focus on shedding some fat and will have to fill in my work related reading time during the break with BF% and nutrition related reading. I am yet to figure out if it is practical to lose fat without loss of sprint condition or atrophy in general, ideas?

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Postby timyone » 26 Dec 2010, 09:00

tbone is road captain james fowler

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Postby Toff » 26 Dec 2010, 15:04

Skinfold tests are about the easiest tests to carry out. You just need a set of calipers, and the guage tells you your fat percentage. Cost under $20. Mike probably has a set. Bring 'em down to the Cafe Mike!

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Postby mikesbytes » 26 Dec 2010, 19:13

I haven't got a set but I'm happy to buy some, any suggestions on which ones to buy?

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Postby weller » 27 Dec 2010, 17:37

Be wary of using skin fold calipers - heaps of inter and intra operative error (who's doing the measuring and getting the calipers in the same palce every time), quite difficult even for the most experienced technicians. Some athletes have been known to get tatoos on the measuremnt locations to help with consistency. Someone mentioned earlier about waist measurement. A technique known as the waist hip ratio (waist/hip) is probabaly the easiest and a more consistent type of measurement. Measure just above your belly button (waist) - hopefully the thinnest part of your torso - if not, trouble! Divided by the measurement around your bum (the widest part). For someone like you Mike it will most certainly be below 0.9 (this is the reccomended "healthy" ratio).
Don't get hung up on actual % figure as it will drive you to distraction. The aim is to get the fat levels lower - use weekly measurements (WHR and scales) and look at the trends and also the holes in your bely buckle.
Underwater weighing is the most accurate measure but you will find regular weighing is not possible. You can call the nutrtion departments at Sydney and Wollongong Uni's as they are often carrying out metabolic testing and have the relevant equipment - you may be able to participate in a study, otherwsie be prepared for some $ outlay.
Some tips!
!. Get off the grog (if you are on it!) - ethanol is alomost as fattening as butter, guaranteed results!!
2. Eat less fat (all types!!) - eat as many fruit and vegetables (as long as there is no oil and excluding things like avocado, oilves, coconut etc.)
3. Stick to endurance type exercise

Hope this helps - let me know

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Postby mikesbytes » 27 Dec 2010, 20:46

Thanks Craig, I won't bother to get calipers. I don't mind if the measurement is inaccurate, but it needs to be consistent and it sounds like calipers isn't

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Postby timyone » 07 Jan 2011, 18:38

It has been estimated that a loss of 5 kg would only improve time-trialing in the flats by 1%. Most recreational cyclists would not even notice this level of improvement.

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Postby weiyun » 07 Jan 2011, 19:21

timyone wrote:It has been estimated that a loss of 5 kg would only improve time-trialing in the flats by 1%. Most recreational cyclists would not even notice this level of improvement.

Any source for this statement? To my understanding, weight is not relevant on the flat in an ITT situation. Further, heavier weight has additional benefits on a windy day.

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Postby timyone » 07 Jan 2011, 20:39

that was from the thing mike posted, they call them selves some sort of sports academy, but you can never tell with these internets

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Postby mikesbytes » 07 Jan 2011, 20:49

Yes, weight loss is about hill climbing

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Postby weiyun » 07 Jan 2011, 22:09

Ok, so the claim was't about the flats.

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Postby wallman » 09 Jan 2011, 16:33

I wonder if the 1% difference is due to the rider that's 5kg lighter have a reduced frontal area and therefore reduced aero coefficient?

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Postby mikesbytes » 09 Jan 2011, 21:20

wallman wrote:I wonder if the 1% difference is due to the rider that's 5kg lighter have a reduced frontal area and therefore reduced aero coefficient?


Sounds plausible

Perhaps another [smaller] contributor could be that as you are less fat, you legs are lighter, so there is a little less rotational mass

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Postby mikesbytes » 02 Feb 2011, 19:46

Well I weighed in at 74.65kg today, so my 75kg goal has been met. The question is, how much power have I lost? I can't say I noticed any loss on Sundays waterfall ride, but that's hardly scientific.

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Postby Lizanne » 03 Feb 2011, 08:53

weight means nothing for the next few days... everyone is so dehydrated from the heat.

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Postby mikesbytes » 03 Feb 2011, 08:59

Lizanne wrote:weight means nothing for the next few days... everyone is so dehydrated from the heat.


I don't think my measurement was that far out, as I'd sat in aircon office all day before the measurement.

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Postby Lizanne » 03 Feb 2011, 09:05

maybe... i know i'm about 2kg lighter from just being in the heat the last week. i can't get enough water into me, and i sit in aircon all day.

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Postby Karzie » 03 Feb 2011, 14:15

If jockeys can do it, why not riders of the iron horse?

I always have a good sweat before the weigh-in!

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Postby mikesbytes » 04 Mar 2011, 08:17

Well a month on and my Wednesday weigh in was 74.55kg so I've definitely stabilised on my new weight figures. And I don't see any evidence of power loss, so I'm naming my approach a success.

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Postby Richard » 04 Mar 2011, 10:49

Just finished Feb Fast.

No booze for an entire month = 3.5kgs weight loss and two holes off the belt

Not sure if I should be thrilled or depressed. I love my wine but this shows that it loves me a little too much in return.

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Postby mikesbytes » 04 Mar 2011, 11:33

Well done Richard

Matter of finding the correct balance

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Postby Terry » 04 Mar 2011, 14:26

Richard wrote:Just finished Feb Fast.

No booze for an entire month = 3.5kgs weight loss and two holes off the belt

Not sure if I should be thrilled or depressed. I love my wine but this shows that it loves me a little too much in return.


Was that the only change you made?

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Postby mikesbytes » 20 Mar 2011, 17:13

Well my weight stayed even at 75kg for about 4 weeks, then my sick week came and I lost another kilo, weighing in at 73.85kg

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Postby timyone » 23 Mar 2011, 11:14

man you weigh the same as me! i wonder if it will make you faster or not, ive worked out that what seems to work for me is racing, and riding my bike. Longer rides seem to help shorter rides and fast rides. But yeah, just a theory im working on really.

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Postby mikesbytes » 23 Mar 2011, 12:27

I suspect that my hill climbing has improved, but need to another DHBC fasties RNP to gauge that

Tonight is weigh in. I suspect that I've stemmed the tide and will weigh in at 74kg, despite still been a bit sick. Shall see.

Jess recons I've lost muscle, don't know

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Postby mikesbytes » 23 Mar 2011, 21:43

Wow what happened there 75.5kg that's a 1.5kg increase in a week

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Postby weiyun » 23 Mar 2011, 22:26

mikesbytes wrote:Wow what happened there 75.5kg that's a 1.5kg increase in a week

It's common to put on weight during recovery of an illness. :mrgreen:

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Postby timyone » 24 Mar 2011, 08:17

when ever ive lost weight it hasnt really helped my hill climbing, training with John, or doing tuesday morning randwick training has helped a lot more.

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Postby mikesbytes » 24 Mar 2011, 08:40

timyone wrote:when ever ive lost weight it hasnt really helped my hill climbing, training with John, or doing tuesday morning randwick training has helped a lot more.


I don't do enough climbing nowadays, I don't have the bandwidth to do weekday rides, so I really need to get back into doing RNP, rather than just riding to Waterfall

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Postby Karzie » 24 Mar 2011, 09:14

mikesbytes wrote: I really need to get back into doing RNP, rather than just riding to Waterfall


I've been thinking exactly the same thing.

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Postby mikesbytes » 30 Mar 2011, 19:57

Far out, weigh in and I'm now 76.000kg. Another 500gms, must of been those beers

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Postby mikesbytes » 11 Apr 2011, 14:09

Tim LLL is looking pretty buff at the moment.

I'm wondering if I should go for a couple more Kg, or to leave it as it is

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Postby timyone » 11 Apr 2011, 21:40

im putting on weight~!!! this calorie counting isnt working!
oh hey im still lighter than you :D im 74 :D
my goal is either 70 or 80, i haven't decided which..

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Postby Lizanne » 12 Apr 2011, 08:55

Hey Mike, you talk about BEER like it's a bad thing.

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Postby kiwiames » 12 Apr 2011, 09:00

Calorie counting only works if you do it right timmy!! ...

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Postby mikesbytes » 12 Apr 2011, 21:08

timyone wrote:im putting on weight~!!! this calorie counting isnt working!
oh hey im still lighter than you :D im 74 :D
my goal is either 70 or 80, i haven't decided which..


Unless your worried about the road season, go 80, then go 70

Lizanne wrote:Hey Mike, you talk about BEER like it's a bad thing.


Track season is over :(

kiwiames wrote:Calorie counting only works if you do it right timmy!! ...


:wink:

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Postby mikesbytes » 13 May 2011, 09:38

Well 4 months on since that crash diet and what's happened;
1. my weight has stabilised at about 76kg.
2. there has been no drop in performance, in fact its probably got better

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Postby Adrian E » 13 May 2011, 10:51

I'm not on a crash diet but I've lost 2kg since starting the giro this month. The wake up call came after realising that I was the entire weight of my bike heavier that I was three years ago when I was 72kg. I'm currently 77kg and aiming to get under 72.

The upside is on a $/per kg basis, its much easier loosing weight than buying new components.

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Postby timyone » 13 May 2011, 11:52

Nice work Adrian!! is it really cheaper than the parts? im not totally sure if your buying food away from home!

Im working towards my dresm weight of 70kg :D i am not 72.5 :D well some thing like that, it goes up and down an amazing amount. The big block in my way is the large, and increasing amounts of chocolate ive been eating. There is an Aldi chocolate, ill have to check the name of it, you should all totally check it out, that im totally into!!! And Indian food, none of them seem to be that healthy, i may consider cutting down the butter chicken to less than a few times a week etc..
And perhaps my dreams of big legs, and amazingly muscley arms, are getting in my way too.. but seriously, whats the point of being thin, if your not amazingly muscley?!

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Postby mikesbytes » 13 May 2011, 11:59

If your trying to loose weight, then as much as possible steer clear of takeaways, they are built around maximising the taste while using the cheapest ingredients.

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Postby Adrian E » 13 May 2011, 12:03

+1

Takeaway is an expensive no-no. I'm cutting back on energy rich foods, but still enjoying a glass of wine and the odd chocolate.

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Postby Lizanne » 13 May 2011, 12:28

I just eat food
it's a good way to go

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Postby Adrian E » 13 May 2011, 12:45

yes, but your not overweight!

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Postby mikesbytes » 13 May 2011, 12:58

Tim, I can't see how you can get to 70kg

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Postby timyone » 13 May 2011, 13:09

ive still got stomach fat that i hold in :D if i had been riding instead of the times i go to the gym etc, id be bellow it by now, it doesnt actually matter if i get there or not :D If i was a roadie, and wanted to be pro, id be aiming for 65-68 :shock:

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Postby T-Bone » 13 May 2011, 13:49

timyone wrote:....There is an Aldi chocolate, ill have to check the name of it, you should all totally check it out, that im totally into!!!


Moser Roth chocolate from Aldi is pretty good.

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Postby orphic » 13 May 2011, 15:03

Well I've been trying to train my body to accept the required amount of food it needs for long endurance races. It's quite astounding how much the recommended intake is. Trying to down 1-1.3g of CHO per kg of bodyweight per hour is a real challenge when you're working hard. I tend to come out the other side of long races wanting to throw up, and I'm still not sure how much of this is related to food in take, fluid or a diabetes things.

I've got to a point on training rides where I can get down about 40g (basically a gel and a muesli bar) per hour but not much more than that, not with the diabetes thing anyway. It definitely makes a difference. At the end of a 6hr ride I am feeling heaps fresher than I would if I just ate my regular couple of muesli bars and maybe some snakes if I was feeling flat.

Looking forward to putting it all to the test. I'm borrowing a continuous blood glucose meter from my endo again and then I get to do it and see what my blood sugar is doing in real time. Exciting, in a nerdy kinda way...


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