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Postby timyone » 03 Jul 2010, 19:40

Ok its here, heres the spot to post what youve heard, what you think, and any pics you can find :D




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Postby timyone » 03 Jul 2010, 20:08

La startlist officielle (dossards)

posté par Alexandre Mignot le 02/07/2010 à 14h32

Les dossards officiels du Tour de France ont été communiqué. Les voici :

ASTANA (AST)

1 CONTADOR Alberto
2 DE LA FUENTE David
3 GRIVKO Andriy
4 HERNANDEZ BLAZQUEZ Jesus
5 IGLINSKIY Maxim
6 NAVARRO Daniel
7 NOVAL GONZALEZ Benjamin
8 TIRALONGO Paolo
9 VINOKOUROV Alexandre

TEAM SAXO BANK (SAX)

11 SCHLECK Andy *
12 BRESCHEL Matti
13 CANCELLARA Fabian
14 FUGLSANG Jakob *
15 O’GRADY Stuart
16 SCHLECK Frank
17 SORENSEN Chris
18 SORENSEN Nicki
19 VOIGT Jens

TEAM RADIOSHACK (RSH)

21 ARMSTRONG Lance
22 BRAJKOVIC Janez
23 HORNER Christopher
24 KLÖDEN Andréas
25 LEIPHEIMER Levi
26 MURAVYEV Dmitriy
27 PAULINHO Sergio
28 POPOVYCH Yaroslav
29 RAST Gregory

SKY PRO CYCLING (SKY)

31 WIGGINS Bradley
32 BARRY Michaël
33 CUMMINGS Stephen
34 FLECHA Juan Antonio
35 GERRANS Simon
36 BOASSON HAGEN Edvald *
37 LÖVKVIST Thomas
38 PAUWELS Serge
39 THOMAS Geraint *

LIQUIGAS-DOIMO (LIQ)

41 BASSO Ivan
42 BELLOTTI Francesco
43 KOREN Kristjan *
44 KREUZIGER Roman *
45 KUCHYNSKI Aleksandr
46 OSS Daniel *
47 QUINZIATO Manuel
48 SZMYD Sylvester
49 VANDBORG Brian

GARMIN - TRANSITIONS (GRM)

51 VANDEVELDE Christian
52 DEAN Julian
53 FARRAR Tyler
54 HESJEDAL Ryder
55 HUNTER Robert
56 MAASKANT Martijn
57 MILLAR David
58 VAN SUMMEREN Johan
59 ZABRISKIE David

FDJ (FDJ)

61 LE MEVEL Christophe
62 CASAR Sandy
63 DI GREGORIO Rémy *
64 GESLIN Anthony
65 LADAGNOUS Matthieu
66 ROUX Anthony *
67 ROY Jérémy
68 SULZBERGER Wesley *
69 VAUGRENARD Benoît

KATUSHA TEAM (KAT)

71 KARPETS Vladimir
72 BRUTT Pavel
73 IVANOV Serguei
74 KOLOBNEV Alexandr
75 MC EWEN Robbie
76 PLIUSCHIN Alexandr *
77 RODRIGUEZ OLIVER Joaquin
78 VANDENBERGH Styn
79 VORGANOV Eduard

AG2R LA MONDIALE (ALM)

81 ROCHE Nicolas
82 BOUET Maxime *
83 CHAMPION Dimitri
84 ELMIGER Martin
85 GADRET John
86 LE LAY David
87 MONDORY Lloyd
88 NOCENTINI Rinaldo
89 RIBLON Christophe

CERVELO TEST TEAM (CTT)

91 SASTRE Carlos
92 FLORENCIO Xavier
93 GUSTOV Volodymir
94 HUNT Jérémy
95 HUSHOVD Thor
96 KLIER Andreas
97 KONOVALOVAS Ignatas
98 LANCASTER Brett Daniel
99 LLOYD Daniel

OMEGA PHARMA - LOTTO (OLO)

101 VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen
102 AERTS Mario
103 DE GREEF Francis *
104 DELAGE Mickael *
105 LANG Sebastian
106 LLOYD Matthew
107 MORENO FERNANDEZ Daniel
108 ROELANDTS Jürgen *
109 WEGELIUS Charles

TEAM HTC - COLUMBIA (THR)

111 CAVENDISH Mark *
112 EISEL Bernhard
113 GRABSCH Bert
114 HANSEN Adam
115 MARTIN Tony *
116 MONFORT Maxime
117 RENSHAW Mark
118 ROGERS Michael
119 SIVTSOV Kanstantsin

BMC RACING TEAM (BMC)

121 EVANS Cadel
122 BALLAN Alessandro
123 BOOKWALTER Brent
124 BURGHARDT Marcus
125 FRANK Mathias *
126 HINCAPIE George
127 KROON Karsten
128 MORABITO Steve
129 SANTAMBROGIO Mauro

QUICK STEP (QST)

131 CHAVANEL Sylvain
132 BARREDO Carlos
133 DE WEERT Kevin
134 DEVENYNS Dries
135 PINEAU Jérôme
136 REDA Francesco
137 SEELDRAYERS Kevin *
138 VAN DE WALLE Jurgen
139 WYNANTS Maarten

TEAM MILRAM (MRM)

141 GERDEMANN Linus
142 CIOLEK Gerald *
143 FRÖHLINGER Johannes *
144 KLUGE Roger *
145 KNEES Christian
146 ROBERTS Luke
147 ROHREGGER Thomas
148 TERPSTRA Niki
149 WEGMANN Fabian

BBOX BOUYGUES TELECOM (BTL)

151 VOECKLER Thomas
152 ARASHIRO Yukiya
153 CHARTEAU Anthony
154 FEDRIGO Pierrick
155 GAUTIER Cyril *
156 ROLLAND Pierre *
157 SPRICK Matthieu
158 TURGOT Sébastien
159 VOGONDY Nicolas

CAISSE D’EPARGNE (GCE)

161 SANCHEZ Luis-Leon
162 FARIA DA COSTA Rui Alberto *
163 ERVITI Imanol
164 GUTIERREZ José Ivan
165 KIRYIENKA Vasil
166 MOREAU Christophe
167 PERGET Mathieu
168 PLAZA MOLINA Ruben
169 ROJAS Jose Joaquin *

COFIDIS LE CREDIT EN LIGNE (COF)

171 TAARAMAE Rein *
172 AUGE Stéphane
173 DUMOULIN Samuel
174 EL FARES Julien *
175 KERN Christophe
176 MINARD Sébastien
177 MOINARD Amaël
178 MONIER Damien
179 PAURIOL Rémi

EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI (EUS)

181 SANCHEZ Samuel
182 ISASI Inaki
183 MARTINEZ Egoi
184 OROZ Juan José
185 PEREZ LEZAUN Alan
186 PEREZ MORENO Ruben
187 TXURRUKA Amets
188 VELASCO Ivan
189 VERDUGO Gorka

RABOBANK (RAB)

191 MENCHOV Denis
192 BOOM Lars *
193 FREIRE Oscar
194 GARATE Juan Manuel
195 GESINK Robert *
196 MOERENHOUT Koos
197 NIERMANN Grischa
198 TANKINK Bram
199 TJALLINGII Maarten

LAMPRE - FARNESE (LAM)

201 CUNEGO Damiano
202 BOLE Grega
203 DA DALTO Mauro
204 GAVAZZI Francesco
205 HONDO Danilo
206 LORENZETTO Mirco
207 MALORI Adriano *
208 PETACCHI Alessandro
209 SPILAK Simon*

FOOTON-SERVETTO (FOT)

211 CAPECCHI Eros *
212 BENITEZ José-Alberto
213 CARDOSO Manuel
214 DURAN AROCA Arkaitz *
215 EIBEGGER Markus
216 FELLINE Fabio *
217 MAYOZ Iban
218 PEREZ ARRIETA Aitor
219 VALLS FERRI Rafael *

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Postby timyone » 04 Jul 2010, 03:43

Go saxo bank :D

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Postby T-Bone » 04 Jul 2010, 15:30

looks like you got your links mixed up (that's the cyclocross punch again)

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Postby timyone » 04 Jul 2010, 15:32

fixed

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Postby mikesbytes » 04 Jul 2010, 18:55

CANCELLARA's winning average speed was 53.4kph, while last was 32.7kph. But if you ignore the last 2 riders, who's times are up the creek for whatever reason, then last is 45.7kph

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Postby Eleri » 04 Jul 2010, 19:50

The last two both came a cropper but finished anyway.

I don't think any of us will be emulating those times at Somersby in 3 weeks - not least because of the hills.

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Postby weiyun » 05 Jul 2010, 09:34

I note a photo showing a rider's bloody face, with full aero kit. I assume at least one of the slow riders was as the result of that crash.

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Postby Julio » 05 Jul 2010, 10:24

I loved the moldovian national champions colorful jersey
I loved the fact that there was a bike path on either side of the road for almost the whole 223.5km stage.
I loved the amount of people who lined the whole stage
I loved that Cav crashed but was pissed that Tyler didn't win

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Postby T-Bone » 05 Jul 2010, 12:33

Tyler had his own incident. He had to stop and detach another bike from his own.

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Postby PeterOS » 07 Jul 2010, 08:42

Cadel = 3RD

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Postby mikesbytes » 07 Jul 2010, 09:30

1st of the main contenders

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Postby timyone » 07 Jul 2010, 11:15

It would be funny as if he won hey!

Man this tour is so good! At the moment it looks like a lot of people could win, mainly because every one keeps crashing! Go saxobank! Man watching jens on the front dropping people off the back for long periods of time is crazy! How is he not a flat race contender!

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Postby Stuart » 07 Jul 2010, 17:09

Stage 2: very weird, great ride from Chavanel and I couldn't, and still can't understand why the guys left upright didn't bolt and make lots of time on the fallen - isn't that racing? Sometimes the luck goes your way, and sometimes not? Anyway, I thought at least they'd sprint at the end but it was all too weird. I think the power might have gone to Cancellara's head somewhat. Highlight of the day - watching Jens pulling the Schlek's back to the peleton - Jens is THE MAN! I love that guy - the expression on his face was just pure pain.



Stage 3: Great racing! fantastic to watch. Chavanel's luck really did desert him though huh!! 3 bike changes and a flat. You never really know what will happen next! Poor old Frank's out but Saxo's might and power is only slightly diminished. Outstanding ride from cuddles Cadel but Andy Shrek looked pretty good too. My $$ still on the skinny Spaniard but cuddles could get a top three - we'll see. Oh, and poor old Lance ... still, he had the right attitude re stage 2.


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Postby Stuart » 07 Jul 2010, 17:15

well, well, well -

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Postby Stuart » 08 Jul 2010, 19:00

Stage 4: yawwwwnnnnnnnn Only interest really was that Cav couldn't get going in the sprint (lead out train missing Hansen?) and then sat up when it was obvious he wouldn't win - seems he's not interested in Green Jersey points ??

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Postby timyone » 08 Jul 2010, 19:08

yeah and i stayed awake for it!! i chose the wrong night!! especially getting up to watch the soccer in the morning too!

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Postby Stuart » 09 Jul 2010, 10:08

Stage 5: Flat stages are really quite boring aren't they? Still, the concept of a "rest day" that means a 185k ride puts it in perspective. Cav got the win when I was hoping that Robbie might get up - seems his injuries are not helping. Interesting hearing discussions of different sprinting styles though with Cav needing a lead-out to win it whereas others like McEwen and Petacchi just go it alone.


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Postby timyone » 09 Jul 2010, 10:29

Man I stayed up! And the only thing that was worth seeing, was the sprint, and maybe how they all did beforehand! But yeah, good job by renshaw! But cav really look fast as!

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Postby geoff m » 11 Jul 2010, 22:37

Joanne - are you OK.....?????? Cadel, Simon Gerrans and some others went down. He's had to see the race doctor, and looks like he hurt his wrist, apart from a bloody elbow and sore hip. Don't know what it will do for him. He's at the front of the peleton at the moment. Knowing him, he won't let anyone know, if it is bad, until the day after the final day.

Does this guy have any luck on his side ever?

I hope Spain wins the World Cup today, and then luck for the Spanish will run out from 12th July onwards.

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Postby Stuart » 12 Jul 2010, 10:04

Stage 6:
Cav again - Renshaw superb - he needs to go to another team and sprint for his own wins. More bad luck for McEwen with the official stepping out into has way, it's just not his tour at all. Then there was the handbags fight - what a classic!


Stage 7:
Great tactical ride from Chavanel and just reward after his bad luck on the cobbles. Otehr than that, the GC guys were all just staying close to each other. Still, a nice stage.


Stage 8:
Thought for sure that Contador would attack after Astana spent so much energy pushing the pace but it was Schleck's day. Lance is gone, gone , gone - his luck seems to mirror McEwens' - maybe after so many tours they've used theirs all up? Oh and cuddles is in Yellow - a little too early one would think but his luck seems to be holding with his crash not doing too much damage by the looks of things. Schleck is looking mighty strong but Contador is surely foxing? Anyway, Go Cuddles Cadel Go!


I swear that Cadel is actually smiling in this shot - I luv ya Cadel - go hard!

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Postby Trouty » 14 Jul 2010, 07:03

I watched the tour last night in almost as much agony as Cadel with his fractured arm. Andy, COntador and Jens just sailed away from him :(. That guy really has no luck at all.

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Postby Stuart » 14 Jul 2010, 08:28

Stage 9: Man, the luck just doesn't go Cadel's way -

The worst part of this stage was having to listen to those two Poms, Liggett and Sherwin dancing on the grave of Cadel with all the glee they could muster. And of course they were still the biggest fanboi's of Lances' there's ever been. SBS needs new commentators.

Right, anyway great riding from Astana and Saxo Bank and a good stage - my tip is still Contador. Pity I just can't warm to either Schlek or the skinny Spaniard, but then heaps of cyclists don't like cuddles so I guess it comes down to personality and I like Cadel cause he wears his heart on his sleeve. Pity Jens is not a GC contender, then I'd really have somebody to cheer for.

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Postby timyone » 14 Jul 2010, 12:26

I seriously loved the stage!! for the first time i was looking away from my computer morethan i was looking at it!! Go Saxobank! and they have a new sponsor!!

Jens is the man?!!!!

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Postby Stuart » 16 Jul 2010, 08:52

Stage 10:
umm I missed this except for the highlights .. looked like a good stage for the breakaway. Fantastic shots of the peloton descending towards Gap! Talk about a scary road to ride down with all those people.



All that way and it was this close at the finish


Stage 11:
Well bad boy ... it didn't look to bad to me but he sure did move over on Farrar after Cav let fly.

Cycling fans cheer on the bunch

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Postby timyone » 16 Jul 2010, 11:29

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Renshaw is gone?!!!
i was half asleep, looking at my phone reading a comment by Stuart about head butting i had written last night, when i though it said he has been kicked off?! that woke me up strait away?!! no way?! hes may fave rider along side Jens Voidt?!!! But yeah, it looked like a full on head butt, theother guy was totally riding into him though. What does this mean for Cav? Mark is the best lead out man out there right now!

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Postby timyone » 16 Jul 2010, 11:31

Here is his facebook comment (i just happened to have him on facebook)

"I think today's punishment was very harsh. I never imagined that i would ever be dq'd from the tdf. Very disappointed."

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Postby timyone » 16 Jul 2010, 11:54

"Une course cycliste n'est pas un ring. Mark Renshaw l'a vraisemblablement oublié dans le final de cette 11e étape du Tour de France finalement revenue à son équipier, Mark Cavendish. Le coureur australien risque d'être déclassé."


(this was before they displaced him :P

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Postby mikesbytes » 16 Jul 2010, 13:30

I guess its the only way to truly punish, as now Cavendish doesn't have his leadout man

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Postby T-Bone » 16 Jul 2010, 15:48

The punishments are not very consistent at this tour. Surely Dean should have been penalised for not holding his line, which in turn required Renshaw to fend him off with his head. I agree Renshaw didn't hold a straight sprint after Cavendish went past, but surely that's just a fine and relegation.

I guess the only option now is for HTC to beat all the other sprinters up with their bikes, only costs 300EUR to do that!! :?

One more thing, Farrar removed his hand from the bars, so surely he should be penalised too. :evil:

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Postby Stuart » 20 Jul 2010, 09:35

Stage 12: Contador takes some time away but I'm happy he didn't get the stage. Not a classic days racing really.



Stage 13: Vinokourov the drug cheat wins it - he, like all drug cheats should have been banned for life. Cuddles only 13" back. End comment.

Obligatory sunflower shot.


Stage 14:
A very bad day for cuddles and a fantastic ride from Christophe Riblon to win it - all class and he seemed very happy about it too!



Cheerleaders

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Postby Stuart » 20 Jul 2010, 09:45

Stage 15: Well, well - should he or shouldn't he have waited? I say no - that's racing. They certainly didn't wait for cuddles at the Vuelta last year when he flatted and lost 1' 30" while the "neutral" service guy stuffed up the wheel change and lost Cadel his chance to win a grand tour. One thing I don't believe is that Contador didn't know Schleck's chain was off but then Sanchez & Menchov weren't going to stop either now were they? Great show of strength from Thomas Voeckler to win the stage too.

Cuddles doesn't look too happy after dropping another 7' or so - looks like riding the Giro wasn't such a great idea after all ....


Oh, and look where Contador was when AS lost his chain - and he didn't notice - must be Special Spanish Blindness ....

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Postby Stuart » 20 Jul 2010, 11:31

Andy Schleck is comforted by Belgium's Jurgen Van den Broeck on the finish line


and Schleck says "why wouldn't you do any work on the front to help my chase back (and your GC standings) instead of just sitting on my wheel you Belgian son-of-a-bi*ch!"

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Postby timyone » 20 Jul 2010, 16:07

The lotto guy did some helping him, he was on the front for bits of it.

I dunno what to say about it all, it makes it all heaps more exciting with the swaps in the jersy!! how good did schleck look in the chase up the hill after the chain hey! im thinkin andy has it in the mountains, i dont know if he will win, but i think he looks good on the hills!

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Postby T-Bone » 20 Jul 2010, 17:09

I'm hoping for a big attack from Angry Andy. He had Contador dropped before his chain couldn't take it. Van den Broeck was just trying to hang onto Andy's wheel for most of the chase, and he didn't seem the best descender which is why he only got to the front when it flattened out a bit.

All i know is the next 2 stages should be great to watch!!!

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Postby geoff m » 21 Jul 2010, 12:25

Ha, ha,

Did anyone see all the mad Aussies running around on between the Col Solour and Abisque?

One dude was in his Hawthorne outfit. Gi has competition for the future.

I saw the grassy noll twice where Therese and I sat on in 2005! Our first rider coming up the Abisque was Lotto's number 44 Cadel Evans. I hadn't even heard of him before that moment. (He moved into, and stayed into 8th place). It was the same grassy noll we got the terrible text through from a DHBC rider on poor Amy Gillett (same day).

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Postby rick.polito » 21 Jul 2010, 12:52

Interview with Jens Voight after his crash last night. I like his sense of humour:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfiBbZJTx9s

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Postby yewenyi » 21 Jul 2010, 18:57

The poor Jens needs to wear one of those grid iron helmets with the bars as a personal roll cage.

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Postby timyone » 21 Jul 2010, 23:47

ok... im begining to think there may not be racing tonight... ive had the tv guide open for 2 hours no, but it took some convincing... I also heard them say some thing about andy trying it the day after the day off... hmmnnnn

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Postby timyone » 22 Jul 2010, 00:13



lol so many american pics or pics of armstrong!

nice one of robbie thow :D they didnt bother to read his name on his number for the title?!
he really did lose a lot of blood?!
wow!



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Postby timyone » 22 Jul 2010, 13:49

http://www.bicycling.com/tour-de-france ... -sag-wagon

this is the story of Jens getting a little yellow bike to ride on, as his was broken, and he made it back to finish the stage!!!


"Finally, the race organizers got me a bike, but it was this little yellow junior bike. It was way too small for me and even had old-fashioned toe-clip pedals. But that is the only way I could get down the mountain, so I had to ride it for like 15-20 kilometers until I finally got to a team car with my bike. "


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Postby T-Bone » 22 Jul 2010, 17:24

That is a fair bit of blood on that motorbike!!

As for Jens bike, Mavic must have gone with a one size fits all approach for the neutral spares.

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Postby T-Bone » 22 Jul 2010, 22:18

Good news tonight!!!

SBS will be showing 4 stages of the Vuelta this year!!!

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Postby Stuart » 23 Jul 2010, 11:34

Umm, they seem distracted.


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Postby timyone » 23 Jul 2010, 13:35

lol!! that pic isnt that recent, ive seen it before! but now im distracted... i dont think it can be healthy for schleck to be that thin!


Ok does every one but me know about this site here? check out this run through of the sky bus!!!
http://www.ozcycling.com/videos/tourdef ... 515&page=1

Theres interviews from along the way on the site too, though i havent watched any yet.

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Postby T-Bone » 24 Jul 2010, 17:44

Tour news update


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Postby timyone » 25 Jul 2010, 00:14

ok im sitting here in suspense instead of going to bed to sleep for our own individual time trial which is tomorrow, this better be worth it, andy better win :D

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Postby Karzie » 25 Jul 2010, 00:35

I've got a time machine. I get in and it takes me eight hours into the future. I call it... 'The bed'.

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Postby timyone » 25 Jul 2010, 00:36

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Andy Schleck is ahead at the first time check, and your going to bed?

timyone
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Postby timyone » 25 Jul 2010, 01:11

oh..

timyone
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Postby timyone » 27 Jul 2010, 11:43

World rankings after tour from the herald, cadel was winning before the tour
Tour de France runner-up Andy Schleck of Luxembourg has climbed impressively from 57th to sixth.

UCI individual world rankings
1. Alberto Contador (ESP/AST) 482 points
2. Joaquin Rodriguez (ESP/KAT) 398
3. Cadel Evans (AUS/BMC) 390
4. Philippe Gilbert (BEL/OLO) 304
5. Luis Leon Sanchez (ESP/GCE) 283
6. Andy Schleck (LUX/SAX) 258
7. Fabian Cancellara (SUI/SAX) 250
8. Samuel Sanchez (ESP/EUS) 233
9. Robert Gesink (NED/RAB) 225
10. Alexandre Vinokourov (KAZ/AST) 223

Selected others
14. Ivan Basso (ITA/LIQ) 206
16. Ryder Hesjedal (CAN/GRM) 195
20. Alessandro Petacchi (ITA/LAM) 163
42. Lance Armstrong (USA/RSH) 85

Team rankings

1. Astana (KAZ) 884 points
2. Saxo Bank (DEN) 788
3. Katusha (RUS) 709
4. Liquigas (ITA) 634
5. Omega Pharma (BEL) 621
6. Rabobank (NED) 605
7. HTC-Columbia (USA) 595
8. RadioShack (USA) 562
9. BMC (USA) 553
10. Caisse d'Epargne (ESP) 506

Nation rankings
1. Spain 1528 points
2. Italy 856
3. Belgium 849
4. Australia 723
5. United States 568
6. Russia 423
7. Luxembourg 398
8. Switzerland 355
9. Germany 343
10. Kazakhstan 340


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