Ken Dinnerville Memorial Handicap 25th May- Don't miss this!

[mikesbytes]

Based on my handicap, I've calculated that I need 3 bacon and egg McMuffins before the race.

[T-Bone]

I'll have a 1 spare seat, possibly 2 if the other car can be used, but no detours to General Holmes drive for me, i'll be taking the direct route.

[williamd]

Mike said

He needs 3 bacon and egg Mc Muffins before the race.

If you fart going uphill you will go faster and destroy the competition in one go.

[micklan]

If you fart going uphill you will go faster and destroy the competition in one go.

[mikesbytes]

Might get disqualified for using wind assisted enhancement.

[Eugen Schilter]

I take the train
leaves Central: 06:40
Wolli Creek: 06:51
arrive Dapto: 08:44; ready for the picture

[FAswad]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

The handicapper has lost the plot, man. Its all over the place!!! I mean, am I and Simon Lewellyn really meant to start together???

[mikesbytes]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

The handicapper has lost the plot, man. Its all over the place!!! I mean, am I and Simon Lewellyn really meant to start together???

Mate you bet me by 8 seconds last time we raced

[weiyun]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

The handicapper has lost the plot, man. Its all over the place!!! I mean, am I and Simon Lewellyn really meant to start together???

Just keep telling yourself... "He is a trackie and I can drop him after 60km!"

In any case, I've been grouped in with MikeC and GeoffM, and will definitely suffer behind Mike's pace. But I think Adrian really wins the prize here.

[FAswad]

Not complaining myself. But I feel sorry for my buddy Eddie who has been shoved with the 11min bunch!!!! He is going to get slaughtered.

Oh yeah, and Adrian, best of luck mate!!

[weiyun]

Yes, we'll all have to buy Adrian a beer after the race... 7 minutes behind Eugene and Huw. Wahahah...

[mikesbytes]

I just looked at the handicaps

http://www.nsw.cycling.org.au/files/Rac ... #Handicaps

And they aren't what I understood speaking to Lindsay.

I though I was with Matt.

Have a look where they put Adrian Emmerson , way too far back and what about Michael Langdon on Limit - go Michael

[Toff]

Adrian's handicap is the funniest thing I've read all week! Good luck lads. I'll be waiting to read about all the DHBC exploits after this one.

[weiyun]

And they aren't what I understood speaking to Lindsay.

I though I was with Matt.

Have a look where they put Adrian Emmerson , way too far back and what about Michael Langdon on Limit - go Michael

Have you volunteered to swap with Adrian?

[weiyun]

Adrian's handicap is the funniest thing I've read all week! Good luck lads. I'll be waiting to read about all the DHBC exploits after this one.

But we may all be too presumptuous. Adrian may just surprise us all!

And as one of my ex-boss used to say... "Adrian, God loves ya!"

[Adrian E]

Please forgive my french but WTF* is going on here?

[FAswad]

Do you mean you don't know what we're talking about? or is this your way of protestation against unfair handicapping practices??

Dude this is so funny!!!

Please forgive my french but WTF* is going on here?

[Simon Llewellyn]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

The handicapper has lost the plot, man. Its all over the place!!! I mean, am I and Simon Lewellyn really meant to start together???

Mate what are you talking about? We're in the winning bunch. Look at the size of it, we'll be flying and not seeing much of the wind. We'll have an absolute ball!!!

We'll get caught no doubt by ruminants of the bunches behind, maybe.... back to scratch... but I"m predicting the bulk of our bunch will be sprinting...

& hey Adrian it's that carbon trek with those new brakes....overpriced & over rated... I would get Al to have a word to the handicapper...

[T-Bone]

Don't worry Adrian, i'll speak to Lindsay about trying to get you moved. I'm sure we'll be able to sort something out.

[mikesbytes]

Don't worry Adrian, i'll speak to Lindsay about trying to get you moved. I'm sure we'll be able to sort something out.

I heard that the current handicapper doesn't move. Doesn't hurt to try.

[Adrian E]

Thanks James, I actually just emailed him directly with the shameful "facts" of my past performances. Will have to wait and see.

[lindsay]

Adrian - May I suggest some rockets might do the trick, I'd hit the ignite button just before you get to the ankle-snapper.



I've sent an email to the Handycapper asking to put you where you should be.

[Toff]

Adrian - May I suggest some rockets might do the trick, I'd hit the ignite button just before you get to the ankle-snapper.

Rockets? - Yes.
Full length cotton duck cape? - Sure, why not!
Leather helmet? - No!
Fixed gear bike? - Not unless you can do more than 200 rpm!
Doing all the above on a bike without any brakes? - not really recommended... (note that the cable on the top tube is actually an ignition cable, not a brake cable, and there are no front brake calipers.)

[weiyun]

Doing all the above on a bike without any brakes? - not really recommended... (note that the cable on the top tube is actually an ignition cable, not a brake cable, and there are no front brake calipers.)

Mudguards are the air brakes in this case!

[micklan]

happy to suck some wheels, bring it on (oh, do some turns too) - just like waterfall

[Adrian E]

Some good news. I've been put in with the 25min group with Geoff, Michael C and Weiyun.

What where they thinking?

[mikesbytes]

Good, now we can go on the attack

[micklan]

Good, now we can go on the attack

3 mins and counting...

[mikesbytes]

How many minutes do you get on me at Oatley Park?

[T-Bone]

no attacking until the last lap, especially with my bunch speeding along behind you.

[geoff m]

Guys, who is still looking for a lift?

3 Minute Adrian, I'm confirming you with Limit Micklan.

[micklan]

How many minutes do you get on me at Oatley Park?

3 mins?

[weiyun]

no attacking until the last lap...

Thank you for these sensible words!

[FAswad]

Does anyone know how steep and how long the "kneesnapper" in the race is?

[weiyun]

Does anyone know how steep and how long the "kneesnapper" in the race is?

I sort of worked it out previously using reports and mapping data. It's around 2x the length of Lilyfield Rd hill at a grade that's comparable or a tad greater. Can't quite remember more but will learn it during the first loop on the day.

[mikesbytes]

no attacking until the last lap, especially with my bunch speeding along behind you.

It's going to be my entire bunch that will be attacking

[weiyun]

It's going to be my entire bunch that will be attacking

Just keep your pace even. Your tendency for repeated short surges will kill the rest of us!

[mikesbytes]

Just keep your pace even. Your tendency for repeated short surges will kill the rest of us!

That's training, not racing

[Huw]

I hope Eugen plays nice

[mikesbytes]

I hope Eugen plays nice

You'll get a lot less slip stream off Eugen than you'll be providing.

[weiyun]

That's training, not racing

I'll take your words on that.

[weiyun]

You'll get a lot less slip stream off Eugen than you'll be providing.

At the same time, I am sure Eugene would enjoy Huw's company... Wahaha!

[mikesbytes]

Once we catch Limit, Michael L can jump in on the action

[weiyun]

Once we catch Limit, Michael L can jump in on the action

And you can jump on with Huw and Eugene when they go past...

[mikesbytes]

And you can jump on with Huw and Eugene when they go past...

I wish

[FAswad]

Never seen Lillyfield hill. Say, compared to Audely hill?

I sort of worked it out previously using reports and mapping data. It's around 2x the length of Lilyfield Rd hill at a grade that's comparable or a tad greater. Can't quite remember more but will learn it during the first loop on the day.

[mcrkennedy]

I sort of worked it out previously using reports and mapping data. It's around 2x the length of Lilyfield Rd hill at a grade that's comparable or a tad greater. Can't quite remember more but will learn it during the first loop on the day.

Weiyun which part of Lillyfield road, the long rise from the east of Balmain Road or the short vertical lift on the western side?

[weiyun]

Never seen Lillyfield hill. Say, compared to Audely hill?

Then it would be significantly shorter and less steep. But again, my information was off indirect data. Better off to ask GeoffM and JamesM who did it last year.

[mikesbytes]

I guess the question is;

How does it compare with the Waterfall training ride?

How does it compare with the RNP training ride?

[weiyun]

I can't see how it can compare with our regular Sun rides. This will be 92km of non-stop riding at "race pace". Expect some sore bottoms for starter, let alone of the physical drain.

[williamd]

Could be like the hill going up to Lady Macquarie chair from William Street

[weiyun]

Could be like the hill going up to Lady Macquarie chair from William Street

That hill is not very long. I'd say it's comparable in length to Lilyfield Rd hill. But if you double the length and increase the grade a tiny tiny bit...

[micklan]

Lilyfield hill form the west is much steeper than east - this sounds x 3 laps nasty

[williamd]

I bet it isn't as long as Oatley Park Hill and not 8 times up either.

It might pay to get a good run up as you only have to do it three times.

[Simon Llewellyn]

Guys it's not a particularly difficult climb and bunches always slow down on climbs at opens...they tend to go up in the granny gear not to waste energy...Well they don't use an 81inch like I'm forced to use on the fixey anyway.

But it's not that bad...

[geoff m]

Guys, I'm going down with Al and Coral

We are leaving from Hurlstone Park. Meet his house at 7.00am Sunday morn. PM me if you can come and I will give you his address and phone number or ring me. We have room for about 2 people.

Eugen are you coming with us as well?

We contribute to his petrol bill

[weiyun]

Lilyfield hill form the west is much steeper than east - this sounds x 3 laps nasty

I was talking about coming from the west. The other side is minor in comparison.

[FAswad]

Hey Eugene, will catch a train from Mortdale to Sutherland and hop on the Dapto train there. Let me know if you are still taking the train and I will look for you.

I take the train
leaves Central: 06:40
Wolli Creek: 06:51
arrive Dapto: 08:44; ready for the picture

[T-Bone]

The hill isn't too bad, and as Simon said the bunches will slow down, except for the back markers i guess. Generally in a handicap you're willing to slow down slightly so people can stay on the bunch on the hill, then you'll have them to do some work on the flat.

[Simon Llewellyn]

What about some viagra? That might help you out?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id= ... /may23news

Riders using Viagra for altitude?

By Laura Weislo

The story of Gerolsteiner rider Andrea Moletta's father being detained by the Italian anti-doping police in a car with a large amount of Viagra might have simply been the source of many dirty jokes had it not led to his son's withdrawal from the Giro d'Italia.

Natalino Moletta was stopped by the Italian Guardia Finanza as one of three passengers in a vehicle travelling from Padua to the Giro d'Italia which reportedly contained 82 packages of Viagra, along with a disposable syringe hidden in a tube of toothpaste and a refrigerator with other unidentified products. The search was reportedly part of a wider investigation into doping at gyms in Padua, but reports also indicated the car, and thus the products on board, were headed to the Giro d'Italia. However, there is no indication that the police action was aimed at the Gerolsteiner team.

"It was a targeted police action," Gerolsteiner director Christian Henn told dpa. He said Andrea Moletta could not explain why his father was caught up in the incident, and agreed to leave the Giro. "If they were looking at Moletta, why wasn't there immediately a raid in our hotel? So far everything has been quiet," Henn said.

Doping is rife in fitness clubs worldwide, and Viagra is a widely used as a recreational drug, so it is possible that the products in question have nothing to do with cycling. Still, the Gerolsteiner team deemed it serious enough to remove the rider from the race. Do we have yet another Willy Voet on our hands? Was the car bringing drugs to riders in the Giro? And if so, why Viagra?

Viagra, or sildenafil, is normally used to treat erectile dysfunction, but a 2006 study published by the Journal of Applied Physiology (JoAP) and reported in Science Daily claimed that the drug can significantly enhance performance at altitude in some cyclists. At the moment, the 'little blue pill' is not on World Anti-doping Agency's prohibited substances list.

WADA's spokesman Frédéric Donzé confirmed that Viagra is not banned in competition, but said that the agency is looking into the matter. "WADA is aware of the high altitude study presented in Science Daily. WADA monitors this substance, as it does with many other substances, and is currently funding a research project on the performance-enhancing potential of Sildenafil at various altitudes."

But is Viagra a performance enhancing drug outside of the bedroom? The JoAP study tested ten trained cyclists at sea level and in an altitude chamber simulating 12,700 feet (3870 m) above sea level (or about 1,200 metres above the Giro d'Italia's Cima Coppi). The results were remarkable: while no benefit was gained at sea level, the Viagra group improved its performance over a six kilometre time trial at altitude by 15% over the group given a placebo.

However, the average numbers were deceiving, because the Viagra group was split into "responders" and "non-responders". Four of the subjects had shown a more marked decrease in performance at altitude than the others with placebo, and when they took Viagra, the difference went away.

Another study from a group in Belgium from 2007 tested the drug on "healthy subjects" before and after acclimatization to altitude (5,000m) and saw the performance benefit of Viagra vanish once the subjects were adapted to the low oxygen environment.

The impact of altitude on exercise capacity varies widely from person to person, depending on physiology and acclimatization. Some adapt quickly at high altitude, while others can have severe reactions such as mountain sickness or pulmonary edema - which typically show up above 2,400m.

Whether or not the drug can give a benefit to riders at altitudes below this level remains to be seen. With Monday's mountain time trial from San Vigilio di Marebbe to Plan de Corones heading from 1,200 up to 2,273 metres above sea level, will we see riders popping Viagra to get up for the race? If they do - and if the drug is not banned by WADA, and only the riders who have the unfortunate physiology to have their blood vessels seize up in hypoxic conditions can get a benefit - is it doping?

[mikesbytes]

Won't you need bike pants with a different cut?

[weiyun]

Viagra came out around the same time as when those saddles with a central void came onto the market.

[Eugen Schilter]

Hey Eugene, will catch a train from Mortdale to Sutherland and hop on the Dapto train there. Let me know if you are still taking the train and I will look for you.

I'm taking that train; 3rd carriage from the front; will look out for you in Sutherland. My mob is 0434 527722

[wallman]

I'll have a spare seat Sunday morning if anyone still needs a lift.

Matt

[Huw]

I'll have a spare seat Sunday morning if anyone still needs a lift.

Matt - do you still have that seat available? If so, let me know (will PM you my phone #). If not, I'll catch the train.

[wallman]

Matt - do you still have that seat available? If so, let me know (will PM you my phone #). If not, I'll catch the train.

I do, Huw. I'll PM you my number now...I've not received yours.
matt

[Adrian E]

I found the results we already online.
http://www.illawarracycleclub.org.au/racing.asp
However, it seems they've missed Huw in the sprint finish.

Well done to everyone who raced yesterday. It was a pretty amazing race. My group on 3mins included Geoff, Micheal Clements, Weiyun. As a club we tried to work together but as a bunch we were not working well together. There were 6 people working to keep the pace up and 6 or so sitting on the back do nothing, then two of those riders (from East) tried to attack and break the bunch up ... go figure? Geoff gave them a mouthfull. We were all pretty quickly caught by the 6min group that had James and Matt in it. This created a larger bunch, however I think it started to split on the second time we went up the hill (Mt ???). Eventually both the 11min and 14min groups also caught on creating a massive bunch for the final lap . However as the pace speed up and the group surged at various turns and hills, there we riders falling off the back. On the final lap/final climb there was a group of around 40 riders in the leading bunch including Eugene, Huw, James, Matt, Simon, Micheal Clemens and myself. I fell off the back on the top of the final climb and slowly watched the gap grow in front of me like a slow motion melodrama film. However I manged to time trial my way back to the finish before the group of limit riders caught me.

Well done to Eugene and James for being top DHBC place getters... no doubt we'll be hearing more about the infamous sprint finish that didn't quite go to plan, but the club was certainly in there with a chance to win this one. I think Matt Wallman and Michael 'Cramps' Clemens also put in stunning performances.

Thanks also to Geoff for motivating everyone along for a great day out. I hope we do this more often.

[weiyun]

I found the results we already online.
http://www.illawarracycleclub.org.au/racing.asp
However, it seems they've missed Huw in the sprint finish.

And how the heck did I get in there along with MichaelL and MichaelK?!? I even told them that I am a DNF when I crossed the line. Who should I contact to correct my listing?

Yes, thanks to GeoffM for motivating us in the first place. It was a great experience. As Adrian said, us DH boys were all at the front putting in our contribution for the bunch and despite repeated calls by a pretty experienced Illawarra boy, the other half of the bunch just refused to participate. For me, the first half of the race was quite manageable but pain started to set in at the second climb and was dropped at the top of the hill. Managed to pick up again by working with GeoffM and with some much appreciated assistance from Eugene. I got slower and slower whilst going back to the hill the third time along with an empty stomach. In retrospect, I probably was going into the early phase of bonking. Whilst trying to do the full course, I got shouted down by Al and turned around at the top of the hill, so short cutted by around 10km. After a quick feed and two chocolate bars on the way back, I felt much better on the energy front. But by then, my triceps were killing me (weird as it has never happened before) and eventually rolled back along with MichaelL and MichaelK in company.

Lesson learnt: Need to eat early, much earlier.

Would love to do it again next year and really enjoyed the fantastic day out with everyone. One couldn't have asked for a more perfect weather.

Yes, I second that Michael "Cramps" Clement (MCC) nickname! The more cramps MCC complains about, the better MCC performs.

[micklan]

"And how the heck did I get in there along with MichaelL and MichaelK?!? "

I didn't go up any finish chute, just rolled wind assisted over the line. I'm a DNF.
Thanks Geoff for the invitation, (I feel privileged to have gone in it...source: Weiyun, 2008_5_25)_, would like to be more competitive next year.
It's very impressive that DH riders did so well. Congratulations
I was with the Limit bunch and got very much dropped up Mt Meru on the first lap. (I did see Bill lead the race early on). After I was dropped it was a day of on the end of bunches that got faster and faster, and some mindless racing on my behalf in one of those bunches at some stage. (Funny how when you get dropped you then ride on your own and spectators think your some form of elite breakaway rider...)

[weiyun]

(Funny how when you get dropped you then ride on your own and spectators think your some form of elite breakaway rider...)

From a perspective...

Rider... "Gosh, they are thinking that I am on a solo breakaway at 20km/h. Are they out of their mind? But I'll stand and get back in the drop to look the part."

Spectator... "Gosh, this poor guys is suffering bad. I'll give him a bit more pain by egging him on. Hehe..."

[mcrkennedy]

It seems that despite the warning of the starter about using the chute I too got counted as finisher rather than a DNF. They would have haded to about about 40 to 50 minutes to my time for me to actually have finished!

I will put in a short race report for Bill and myself. Bill, MichaelL and I all lead the race at various time in the first 10 or so kms. Bill and I then decided on a daring attack and broke away at the rear of a disciplined limit bunch of Illawarra riders. As we lead from the rear we managed to get a really good view of all the bunches and how the race was progressing.

Both us good dud directions as times and took wrong turns but we recovered and continued on till we could hear Al gently call "Turn back now!"

I had a great day and look forward to next year as long as they recognise that I DNF and did not finish as they think.

Michael

[mikesbytes]

I solved the cramps by mid race. I had taken a magnesium tablet before the race and took another one at about 1 1/3 laps.

Busy, I'll put a report in later.

[wallman]

For what it's worth I had a pretty good time of it in the 21 min bunch with James. We swallowed up the guys on 24 min pretty early on despite some less than ideal paceline work along the way. I never really felt like we got cracking but we still stayed away until the end of the 2nd lap when we caught the last remaining limit riders just as the combined 14/17 min bunches caught us.

The last lap was pretty quick but again not too tough till the final climb when the group split pretty comprehensively and we were left with myself, Mike, James, Huw, Simon and Eugen in the front 30-odd. Illawarra went off the front shortly after that but we brought them back which was a pretty good bike racing moment for mine...t was a good feeling to have DHBC pulling the bunch across. I think we lost Mike straight after that.

Anyway I could see Eugen, Huw and Simon up front and thought we were in with a pretty good chance for a result but I was caught in three or four minds about how to assist as there were people all over the road plus a crash amidst quite a few touches. I finally broke through on the right just as the rest of the club lit it up down the left. That set all and sundry off but I wasn't on anyone's wheel and wasn't super comfortable with the sprint so I switched off and rolled in at the back of the bunch.

Anyway that was my first country race and I have to say I was pretty impressed with the setup. I thought things were organised well and the course was interesting enough, although I would have liked a longer climb as it might have pruned things right down at the end and I was feeling pretty good.

In fact I enjoyed it so much that it only took 3 pints of Guinness at the pub last night to convince myself that I should do it all over again at Wagga Wagga in a fortnight!

Matt

[mikesbytes]

Lap 1
Shortly after the line I discovered that my front derailier wasn't working, put myself off the back and fixed it and then chased to get back on the pack.
As reported elsewhere, only 6 of us were working. At the halfway mark I could see that we were catching the limit bunch and the 21 minute bunch was catching us and they did not far from the end of the lap.
I had been suffering from calf cramps and was thinking that my race may be over in 10k

Lap 2
Took my second magnesium tablet early in the lap and later in the lap the cramps stopped.
Another bunch caught us and the pace went up yet again. Eugene came by and gave me a friendly push.

Lap 3
There was a mad dash out of the u-turn but I was ready for it and responded accordingly.
As we approached the hill, it looked like they bunch may split, I moved myself up, Adrian did likewise. It did mean that I went down the hill without too many riders around me.
After the school turnaround it looked like it was going to split again so once again I moved myself up. This time I had my moment of glory taking the lead for about 10 seconds.
I hit the hill in about 10th place and moved myself up to about 5th place on the hill and then I decided to conserve some energy so I let myself slip back, but still got a good view of KOM, Eugene came 3rd.
Over the top it had split and I was in the back group with Simon amongst others, we chased and caught, even little old me did a bit of the work. By this time my legs were no longer putting out enough maximum watts and I knew I was at risk on the final hills. The next hill put me at the back of the pack and after all the good decisions I had made, I finally made my first mistake, I didn't have enough watts left in the legs, I should of moved back up towards the front so I wouldn't be off the back on the next hill. However I didn't so the next hill I was off the back with something like 6k to go. I cruised to the finish 3 minutes behind the pack.

Well I can't complain about that. First open race and a good result.

[mikesbytes]

Was the race 90k or 92k ?

[Huw]

Photos available at:
http://dhbc.org.au/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7940#7940

[Huw]

Sorry, I didn't see Weiyun's link on the other thread. The above post was slightly more comprehensive - notice the photo with Al in the background, the photo of Eddie, and the photo of me screaming round the corner at the bottom of the hill.

[mikesbytes]

Rather fitting that the Ambulance is behind James F . Twice in one week would of been too much.

I don't understand how there is a picture of Huw and Simon by themselves.

Bump - is the distance 90 or 92k ?

[weiyun]

Bump - is the distance 90 or 92k ?

Lets go and ride it again!

[T-Bone]

Distances are never too accurate. Anything within 10km is acceptable.

As for the few mistakes in the results, don't worry about what they say, there's always going to be some mistakes, but as long as you know how you finished you can try to improve the next time.

[weiyun]

Sorry, I didn't see Weiyun's link on the other thread. The above post was slightly more comprehensive - notice the photo with Al in the background, the photo of Eddie, and the photo of me screaming round the corner at the bottom of the hill.

No problems. And thanks for picking out those extra photos I missed.

I started that new thread so that people won't have to load these photo files each time they come back to this primarily text based discussion thread. I'll add those additional links to the other thread.

http://dhbc.org.au/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7940#7940

Yep, take your time if you are not on broadband. Approx 8Mb of photos.

[mikesbytes]

http://www.illawarracycleclub.org.au/racing.asp

There have been some adjustments in the results. The guys who didn't finish have been moved to DNF.

I've lost a couple of places and now I'm second in my group.

Huw still missing.

[Huw]

The sting of cool morning air spiked with the vapours of various embrocations, liniments and cremes brought a tear to my eye as I set of in the 14 minute bunch of the Ken Dinnerville. My legs were soon protesting with the combination of eager pacesetting and rolling hillocks along Cleveland Rd. The vocal in our bunch established that we wanted to maintain 40 km/h to stay ahead of the groups behind, so we soon set up a rolling paceline. Along Marshall Mount Rd we were holding 43-45 km/h, and I got the distinct feeling that I was approaching the mythical red zone. Though I was too determined to take the easy option at this point, I must admit that doubt entered my mind about my ability to finish with this bunch.



I rode much of the race keeping to myself. As in many of the races I’ve done, I was interested to see how vocal riders can be in the bunch. Lots of shouting from riders telling others to do more work, close gaps, stick to their line, ride faster, ease up. I’m sure much of it comes in fact from riders who are unprepared to do what it is they prescribe for others. Today was also the first day I’d raced alongside Eugen, who I gathered was a bit disappointed with the overall pace. He made a couple of moves to lift it; in particular an attack on the second climb of Marshall Mount Hill, but he wasn’t able to entice anyone else along. He also didn’t make any friends doing it, and copped mouthfuls from a number of riders. By the second time it came to climbing MM Hill, I had started to ride into my legs, and was feeling much better generally about the race. I kept up with my share of the work, took opportunities to drink and rest, and kept an eye out for the worst patches in the oftentimes lumpy road. Of all things, my thoughts turned to donuts. I mean the rubber ones that sit on the rear brake cable and stop it from buzzing on the top tube when the road is rough.

Our bunch was now swallowing those that left ahead of us, and the pace appeared to ease a little while everyone sorted themselves out. After a turn, I let myself drift back a bit, and found that it was fairly chaotic in the second half of riders, so I headed up to the front half and decided to stay there. Now into the final lap, I felt the pace lift again, presumably as thoughts turned toward the finish. I followed Sam Moorehouse as he bridged to a group who appeared to be bombing off the front, and locked in behind them. But any group that I perceived was temporary, since by the turnaround at the school, I could sense a growing weight of riders behind us.

The third and final climb of MM Hill was, I found, the easiest. I was in good spirits now, feeling that I’d be in for a shot at the finish. With around 2 km to go, I found myself next to Eugen and Simon. Eugen had earlier asked me whether I had a sprint in me, and I replied yes. Now with Simon here, the idea was that we might drive hard to position him for the sprint. At least, that was my understanding. Approaching the 1 km sign, Eugen told me to go, go, go, and so I put the hammer down the left hand side. Now I’m not sure what happened, but that was basically the start and finish of the DHBC endgame. Eugen and Simon weren’t behind me, and around 700 m, I had tired, and was now being rolled by another surge down the right. A pity, I thought, since saving that effort would’ve been very handy for the bunch finish, and who knows what else? Top ten?

As the bunch breezed by, I slacked off and found Simon out the back. He was grinning from ear to ear – he’d obviously had fun mixing it up with the roadies. We wondered briefly about why I took off so early, then thought about how strongly we and the club had ridden. It was a beautiful day for racing, and we rolled up and over the line together at a easy glide.

[Adrian E]

this is funny:
http://www.illawarracycleclub.org.au/hi ... /5-25-2008

[weiyun]

this is funny:
http://www.illawarracycleclub.org.au/hi ... /5-25-2008

Priceless! I've generated a PDF copy and is now officially a course record that's impossible to beat.

[mikesbytes]

[weiyun]

Hehe... Bill is still in there at 99.

[mikesbytes]

How come there were 160 entries and only 100 in the results?

[timyone]

nice lads, the three equal fastest riders did well

[weiyun]

How come there were 160 entries and only 100 in the results?

Obviously there are ones that got missed in the count eg. Huw. But with a photo record, that one should be reinstate given that he is next to Simon with no one behind.

Then there were quite a few who stopped somewhere along the course and dropped out of the race. Either rode back or caught a lift.

[micklan]

copy that ghost rider = 0:00:00.00 in the legs

As I pedalled along waiting for another bunch to hook on to; I noticed so many greyhound tracks beside the road used for training the hounds of the Dapto region, and thought - nice, like criteriums...

[mikesbytes]

copy that ghost rider = 0:00:00.00 in the legs

As I pedalled along waiting for another bunch to hook on; I noticed so many greyhound tracks beside the road used for training hounds of the Dapto region, and thought - nice, like crtiteriums...

You probably could of dropped by for a steroid injection

[mikesbytes]

I still want to know if the distance was 90 or 92k

[weiyun]

I still want to know if the distance was 90 or 92k

Just to confuse you more, here's a write up by Illawarra.

http://www.illawarracycleclub.org.au/

51st Ken Dinnerville Memorial Race

The 51st running of the Ken Dinnerville Memorial Race took place on 25th May 2008.

The race was run under perfect conditions with sunshine and light wind. The limit bunch was the first to depart on the 87km journey, with the subsequent groups spaced by 3 or 4 minutes. The last bunch, known as the scratch bunch, departed some 28 minutes later and certainly had their work cut out for them.

[mikesbytes]

mmm... I have no chance of calculating my average speed.

I'm also interested in a picture that shows how large the bunch I was traveling in during the first half of the 3rd lap.

[weiyun]

Use 87km as I'd think that should be accurate.

[Toff]

Use 92, then 90, then 87km, and take an average of the averages.

Congratulation to all everone who raced. I wish I could have been allowed to compete too.

[mikesbytes]

2:25:39.00

87k = 35.83934089kph
90k = 37.07518023kph
92k = 37.89907312kph

On the first half of the first lap, a guy said that we were averaging 34kph. Knowing how much faster I was going for laps 2 and 3, I doubt the average was under 37kph.

[T-Bone]

my bike computer currently says 88.64km, though that includes the post race roll around, so i suspect the distance is between 87 and 88km.

[mikesbytes]

Thanks James, I'll settle on 36kph average.