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Postby Trouty » 29 Mar 2013, 18:21

Hi Guys,

Not that I ever enter this (and I won't be), but I know it is popular with the DHBC folk so please remember to get in early - entries open at 9am sharp and they are expected to fill up really quick.
DON'T MISS OUT and good luck to those that do get in.

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Postby mikesbytes » 30 Mar 2013, 18:14

Last year entries ran out in 11 minutes. So be at your PC and keep entering until your successful.

BTW for those who haven't done a road race this is an excellent one to start with

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Postby Philip » 31 Mar 2013, 15:20

Being one of those who has never raced, how do you go about attempting to enter this. The web site doesn't seem to have any instructions or phone numbers.

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Postby Trouty » 31 Mar 2013, 17:31

On the cycling NSW website, but it won't let you enter till after 9am Tuesday. Stand by your computer.

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Postby MarkL » 31 Mar 2013, 20:19

Thanks for the heads up Trouty.
Come Tuesday I'll be tapping away trying to get in :)

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Postby Nozzle » 01 Apr 2013, 14:01

I'll be waiting at my work PC for 9am. I'm sure this wont be the most challenging part of the Dinnerville....

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Postby Philip » 01 Apr 2013, 16:18

Thanks Mike, I'll give it my best shot.

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Postby Lizanne » 02 Apr 2013, 07:44

i rode the course yesterday. they fixed the road going up mount marshal, but only patch fixed the rest. and i recon it's worse. as much as i hate this race, but love racing it, the surface is like really uber bad, and i don't have a cross bike...

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Postby Nozzle » 02 Apr 2013, 08:01

I'm in..... :P

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Postby mikesbytes » 02 Apr 2013, 08:02

I'm in, second attempt

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Postby Nozzle » 02 Apr 2013, 08:03

And I see Phil and Mike are in too

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Postby Dougie » 02 Apr 2013, 08:06

third attempt and got IN!

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Postby andrewm » 02 Apr 2013, 08:08

In.

after about 10 attempts. rekon i only just made it

lets see if i can finish with the bunch this year
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Postby Strawburger » 02 Apr 2013, 08:10

I've got a place too, after many attempts...

looks like its all over!

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Postby Dougie » 02 Apr 2013, 08:18

Nice work all. We would appear to have ten in red. If you guys could practice your podium moves and i shall make friends with the man driving the Latern Rouge car

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Postby Philip » 02 Apr 2013, 08:53

You missed John, which makes 10, and 4 of us are old guys.

Is this a graded event, if so how do I get graded, as I've never raced before?

HAGEMAN, Christopher
GORRELL, Noel
BERRY, Simon
MATTES, Andrew
Rogers, James
KIRKHAM, Douglas
CLEMENT, Michael
LACEY, Mark
Le Masurier, Philip
Mason, John
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Postby christian » 02 Apr 2013, 09:04

I didn't remember till it was too late. My money is on Chris and Simon assuming thay get good handicaps.

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Postby James Rogers » 02 Apr 2013, 11:10

When I remembered, I half-heartedly made an entry with my phone, while sitting on my bike at the side of the road. Surprisingly, it went straight through – so I am a slightly unintentional entry. I was assuming this burst of luck would (cosmically) affect my handicap and overall performance in the race; however, I was subsequently gently sideswiped by a car on West St, so maybe everything has been evened out.

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Postby James Rogers » 02 Apr 2013, 15:43

Hardly a scratch. :)


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Postby andrewm » 02 Apr 2013, 15:58

Somewhat ambiguous.

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Postby James Rogers » 02 Apr 2013, 19:19

I'm the guy with the coconuts.

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Postby mikesbytes » 02 Apr 2013, 19:28

Back on topic, for whom will this be their first road handicap race?

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Postby Dougie » 02 Apr 2013, 20:20

Mike, this is my second Road Race and I assume my first Handicap. My first road race was the B2B a couple of years ago. Whilst I wasn't the last the finish the fellow in the Lantern Rouge vehicle did need to stop at the driver reviver station as he was so fatigued waiting for the arriere du peloton to roll in.

I am hoping to be given a good couple of hours on the field.

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Postby Nozzle » 02 Apr 2013, 20:32

1st road race. Who do we bribe for a head start?

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Postby Philip » 02 Apr 2013, 20:43

My first, so how does the handicapping work and who do I need to bribe?

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Postby Nozzle » 02 Apr 2013, 20:59

Can your rough Crit race grading be used as an estimate for handicap? what does the club handicapper take into consideration or is there a middle ground that one starts from?

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Postby Strawburger » 02 Apr 2013, 21:01

Crits are usually a bad indicator for a road race since crits are only 1/3 length or less of a road race

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Postby Strawburger » 02 Apr 2013, 21:08

Unless riders are very strong, usually they start you off in e or f in your first race and move you up or down after that. Experience would count in the assessment as would strength in the waterfall training rides. I'll leave the explanation of the full assessment criteria to those who are involved in the grading though!

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Postby Nozzle » 02 Apr 2013, 21:11

Thanks. I'll check with Alex / Christian when I get the chance.

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Postby mikesbytes » 02 Apr 2013, 21:19

Unless its changed, James F does the road handicaps.

Most of the new guys will be on limit or one bunch behind. Perhaps Phillip in the third bunch.

But I'm not the handicapper.

The guys who have done a few races will end up somewhere similar to previous years, in accordance with their state handicap. At a guess I'll be in the mid field bunch with Strawburger, Mark and Chris one bunch in front of me.

BTW, if the handicapper is reading this, I've only done one road training ride this year....

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Postby JJM_1 » 03 Apr 2013, 05:36

Hi Mike,

This will be my first handicap road race, so any advice on how things play out, what to look out for, & what to do/not do would be great.

John M

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Postby JoTheBuilder » 03 Apr 2013, 06:21

It is indeed James Fowler and he has the most recent list of those who have a race license this year.

We have a committee meeting tomorrow night so can discuss it with him.

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Postby Strawburger » 03 Apr 2013, 06:51

Ah yes, sorry James F!

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Postby Chris96 » 03 Apr 2013, 07:12

First ever open road race and handicap. James, Please give a good one!

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Postby andrewm » 03 Apr 2013, 07:47

I hope James notes I was a DNF from limit last year.

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Postby weiyun » 03 Apr 2013, 09:49

From some years back, I recall the remark of a local Illawarra rider in my bunch some 15mins into the race. He tried to motivate everyone to work together and demanded an average speed of 38km/h to stay ahead and win the race. My jaw dropped... It was still fun though.

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Postby Stuart » 03 Apr 2013, 17:19

By the way - this is Jo not Stuart - forgot to login!

This race from what I hear is pretty hard, and you have to work in the bunch to keep the other groups away - no hiding in the back and be prepared to be dropped within your group at some point. I'd say most of the guys that are riding at the bottom end of Middies or even middies will probably be on Limit, but I guess James will be the judge of that. From memory Amy Vesty had a cracker one year and got like 13th or some thing amazing. That was the year a girl won the whole race and that bunch wasn't the limit bunch but were all fairly strong. GOOD LUCK TO YOU ALL - and the fact that you got in means luck is on your side !! May the force be with you.

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Postby weiyun » 03 Apr 2013, 18:59

Given that being quick on the Internet does not necessarily equate with being fast on the bike, the present registration demand may have inadvertently eliminated some real contenders. It's good for those who got in. Good luck boys and girls! :)

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Postby mikesbytes » 03 Apr 2013, 20:49

Have a look at some of the previous years;






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Postby rhys » 05 Apr 2013, 08:45

I don't get how people can complain about the conditions of the roads in this race, but happily ride at Heffron!
I hope you all have fun, this is a great race to get experience at. Finishing is a good goal.

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Postby mikesbytes » 05 Apr 2013, 11:39

Potholes

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Postby shrubb face » 07 Apr 2013, 10:42

No one needs to panic too much about their handicap, James F and I have already discussed them. Most people will be in the first couple of bunches and Chris will be near the back.

The front bunches often take the victory in this race, so everyone should be able to have a good crack at the win.

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Postby Nozzle » 08 Apr 2013, 20:44

I was thinking of doing a recon ride before the event. Not sure of a date yet but the itinerary would be:

Early Train to Dapto
Ride Ken Dinnerville Course
Macquarie Pass
Re-ride Dinnerville Course
Return to Dapto Station

Let me know if anyone is keen and ill try and line up a suitable weekend. Most likely early May.

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Postby Nozzle » 23 May 2013, 15:07

Group 3 eh? At least we have a few DHBC there.

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Postby Dougie » 23 May 2013, 15:27

Please remember to wave as you go by. 9 mins on John and Philip! I won't even be out of the Carpark in 9 minutes. I just KNEW this was a bad idea.
I strava'd my group. The word "passenger" comes to mind.

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Postby Strawburger » 23 May 2013, 17:00

Dougie, that's more than 5km head start... You won't see them until at least lap 2

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Postby andrewm » 23 May 2013, 17:32

Last year I was dropped from limit after the hill on lap 2 and we had not been caught yet.

And ATM I am without a handicap. Fwiw I rekon I belong with Phillip.

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Postby Philip » 23 May 2013, 20:06

Having Simon, Mark, Noel and James only 5 minutes behind me is making me nervous already! And on top of that I'm in a bunch with John Mason, who can always beat me in a sprint and up hills... Keep a seat for me in the bus will you Dougie.

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Postby mikesbytes » 23 May 2013, 21:21

Ah, either I'll be dropped or if you do see me, I'll be roasted :)

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Postby Nozzle » 24 May 2013, 08:32

Good to see the sand bagging has already begun.... :P

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Postby shrubb face » 24 May 2013, 09:25

There seems to be a lot of excuses being made here.

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Postby mikesbytes » 25 May 2013, 16:33

I'll do better than I did at Coota

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Postby Strawburger » 25 May 2013, 18:22

Are you good for a lift mike?

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