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Postby timyone » 04 Mar 2008, 14:49

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next saturday
19th of april
5 dollers a person (plus maybe some money for bbq)

2 o clock till 4 (for riding)

events
1000m time trial
4000m time trial

match sprint or 3 person sprint (three laps)

some sort of scratch race

flying 200

optional missing out and possible that race that involves a motor bike and 8 laps, though thats a real distant posibility.

BBQ
maybe 2 dollers a sosauge sandwich or so, so bring an extra few dollers to cover it


event will be cancled if it rains and put on a few weeks later.
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Postby christian » 04 Mar 2008, 15:34

You can count me in, depending on what time it would be I'd vote for a Saturday over a Sunday.

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Postby T-Bone » 04 Mar 2008, 15:46

I'd be in for a saturday as long as i don't have work. I should have all my saturdays free soon anyway. 15th would be good for me at the moment.

I'd say no to the penny farthings, as i don't want to be the one to experiment on the banking with them.

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Postby mikesbytes » 04 Mar 2008, 16:33

Sounds interesting Tim. Would we have access to the store room?

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Postby timyone » 04 Mar 2008, 16:55

yeah i want a saturday too, i have youth group on sundays

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Postby timyone » 10 Mar 2008, 09:55

i think we are waiting untill after the metro for this

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Postby T-Bone » 10 Mar 2008, 15:54

when's the metro?

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Postby timyone » 10 Mar 2008, 21:51

im not sure but i think they were hoping in three weeks or so

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Postby Simon Llewellyn » 11 Mar 2008, 04:16

I'm feeling like having a crack at breaking the 1:10 in the kilo....

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Postby mikesbytes » 11 Mar 2008, 11:41

I'm feeling like having a crack at breaking the 1:10 in the kilo....
That's dam fast

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Postby timyone » 13 Mar 2008, 09:56

so the metro is on the 7th or so

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Postby mikesbytes » 13 Mar 2008, 14:14

so the metro is on the 7th or so
April ?

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Postby Toff » 14 Mar 2008, 13:36

Big day is now Saturday, 4th April 2008. Entries close Sunday 23 March 2008, so get down there.

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Postby T-Bone » 14 Mar 2008, 14:43

4th is a friday

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Postby Toff » 14 Mar 2008, 14:51

4th is a friday
You are correct. I'll contact NSW cycling (who have it on their calendar as Saturday) for clarification...

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Postby geoff m » 16 Mar 2008, 20:14

Chris,

Friday the 4th is the correct day and date. Hopefully everyone can make it.

http://www.nsw.cycling.org.au/files/Rac ... /08038.htm

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Postby timyone » 08 Apr 2008, 14:31

ok its time to plan this, we want a saturday arvo? does that take too many people out of it? i can only do a sunday arvo if its school holidays which does happen to be within the next three weeks i think

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Postby timyone » 08 Apr 2008, 14:36

what events do we want?
Kilo
4000 metre time trial (not for every one :D but long distance lads like it hey.
Match sprint or even one thats 3 riders?
a scratch race? maybe two?

what other events do people want? a team sprint? or persuit?
Missing out?

this is a big part so we can write some times down, and have some thing to build on next year, or even at the end of the off season, to see how far we are progressing.

Is this going to be open to other riders? can petachi and stuey ride in it?
i guess this depends if we need the numbers or not, but yeah im happy with in house, just think a scratch race will be out right win by simon if hes there, not that i dont think he will win every thing hes in.

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Postby mikesbytes » 08 Apr 2008, 14:43

Tim are you thinking a DHBC and friends type meet.

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Postby timyone » 08 Apr 2008, 14:48

dunno
its a club championship that we can say who won every thing, just really to have times, but yeah dunno if we let other people ride etc, and just give the first second and third of the dullwich hills to dullwich hill riders? or do what they do at the states where they dont give out that place, or just give it to the other person, i dont think we are giving out any thing for the placings, so it doesnt matter heaps if other people get them, but if we get petachi and stuey (dont think theyd want to ride, but using as example) then they would take out two of top spots.

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Postby mikesbytes » 08 Apr 2008, 14:49

Could have race placings and club placings ?

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Postby timyone » 08 Apr 2008, 15:29

yeah. so when do you want this on? are you cool to miss heffron for it?

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Postby mikesbytes » 08 Apr 2008, 15:38

Fine by me to miss Heffron, Waterfall or whatever.

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Postby micklan » 08 Apr 2008, 16:54

the missing out race where the last rider over the line drops out each second lap is a good educational, fitness, strategy kind of ride - for me anyway. it may be helpful to other riders :idea:

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Postby timyone » 08 Apr 2008, 22:34

ok
next saturday
19th of april
5 dollers a person (plus maybe some money for bbq)

2 o clock i think

events
1000m time trial
4000m time trial

match sprint or 3 person sprint (three laps)

some sort of scratch race

flying 200

optional missing out and possible that race that involves a motor bike and 8 laps, though thats a real distant posibility.

BBQ
maybe 2 dollers a sosauge sandwich or so, so bring an extra few dollers to cover it

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Postby timyone » 15 Apr 2008, 18:08

we will be down a few of our regulars for this,
adrian has a party to go to, and Christian has a sore wrist :(
Hopefully we will have the whole state team sprint team in though

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Postby othy » 15 Apr 2008, 19:12

I'm in Brisbane this weekend - sorry won't be able to make it.

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Postby timyone » 15 Apr 2008, 19:12

lol oh well it still fulfils its original purpose of putting some times down for the people who wanted to!

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Postby micklan » 15 Apr 2008, 19:41

sorry Tim I can;t make it Sat

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Postby timyone » 15 Apr 2008, 20:01

no probs

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Postby timyone » 17 Apr 2008, 13:16

ok we have enough people for a bbq :D and there will be free time for mucking around if your a new rider :D
Talk to lindsey before hand about a bike though

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Postby simon.sharwood » 17 Apr 2008, 22:04

Sorry all ... can't make it.
Having said that, with a bit more notice I'd love to.
And FWIW, I reckon we should say the last Saturday of every even numbered month, or something like that, and do pointscore over the year for club champs!
(Of course as a total n00b that's a very presumptuous suggestion).

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Postby mikesbytes » 19 Apr 2008, 07:52

Looking a bit wet

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Postby mikesbytes » 19 Apr 2008, 20:59

Firstly I'd like to thank everyone or organised and ran this event.

Have to say that it was an excellent event, throughly enjoyed it.

And congratulations to Tim for taking 3rd overall, in his titanic battle with me for that 3rd place.

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Postby timyone » 19 Apr 2008, 22:07

man i had fun
im amazed that i came third :S i should improve my 3000 metre time trial though :S that points race was an effort! totally thanx to alex for getting me into it again :D

but yeah it was a good day, would have totally suited the roadies, seriously every one has to check it out next time!!

It was alot better than expected!

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Postby lindsay » 19 Apr 2008, 23:43

What a great afternoon's racing we had. Firstly I'd like to thank Anna Papas for her great efforts in the difficult task of running the racing, Kevin Llewellyn for organising the BBQ, Llewellyn Jones for his photo taking & Tim Llewellyn for thinking all this up.

On Simon's recommendation we run an omnium which from CyclingNews is as follows -

• A 200m flying start time trial (like what the sprinters do to qualify for their heats, but in this case times and points will be recorded);
• Then a 5km scratch race (or the number of laps closest to 5km);
• Then a 3km individual pursuit (and 2km for juniors) with the riders seeded on how they finished in the scratch race (so dropping off the back of the bunch could be a problem);
• Next up comes a 15km points race, with a minimum of five intermediate and the sixth final sprint;
• And then to cap it off, a kilo. Yes, a one kilometre time trial, generally held as one of the hardest minutes of any cyclist's life. In the omnium, the riders will ride off in pairs, pursuit-style.

We stuck closely to the format, only shortening the point score. And added an all in shoe race at the end... (which Anna & I came 4th on the Tandem)

Here's the results - Congratulations to Simon for a great effort to win all events. Notable was Huw for his second, the battle of the titans Tim & Mike & Louie our only junior in the event.
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Here's the photos -

http://www.flickr.com/photos/60245112@N ... 8001/show/

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Postby othy » 20 Apr 2008, 12:34

Looks like it was a great afternoon. I hope it is run again on a day I can make it, I would have loved to have been there.

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Postby Adrian E » 20 Apr 2008, 13:08

Congrats to Simon... but was it ever in doubt?

The photos look excellent. I'm also sad I couldn't make it as well.

Well done to Time for getting this off the ground.

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Postby kevinllewellyn » 20 Apr 2008, 13:39

Also a big thank you to Lindsay who worked very hard all night running the events

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Postby fixedgear » 20 Apr 2008, 18:23

man i had fun
im amazed that i came third :S i should improve my 3000 metre time trial though :S that points race was an effort! totally thanx to alex for getting me into it again :D

but yeah it was a good day, would have totally suited the roadies, seriously every one has to check it out next time!!

It was alot better than expected!
Tim, looking at the pursuit results, it seems everybody rode 10 laps (3333 1/3 metres) not the 9 required for 3000m, that would explain the slower times.

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Postby Simon Llewellyn » 20 Apr 2008, 18:37

THat does sound alot more reasonable. I estimate that we were loosing about 4 seconds a kilometre to the wind also. I almost felt like I was being pushed backwards in the kilo.

But no it was no where near as easy to win as what the reults say. I suffered some what good. Huw pushed me all the way!!!

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Postby timyone » 20 Apr 2008, 21:35

the time trial is the one we will see the most improvement in next time id say, alot of us werent sure how to ride it :S I had a speedo on :D and cruised it a bit :D
i picked most of the placings before it all except for the battle between me and mike?! i didnt think about him having such an advantage!!

But yeah

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Postby simon.sharwood » 21 Apr 2008, 11:40

Looks like a great event! Count me in for the next one so that Louie has someone to beat!

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Postby timyone » 28 Apr 2008, 11:02

looking back at this, i think me and mike actually drew in the points race..

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Postby mikesbytes » 28 Apr 2008, 11:07

looking back at this, i think me and mike actually drew in the points race..
Your right Tim, 3 3rds and 2 4th's each.

Also Chris came 5th over all, Louie 6th and Alex 7th.

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Postby timyone » 28 Apr 2008, 11:21

yeah your right hey, he got the second pace in the first.
though its funny, if we had a 5th place alex would have been 4th, as he was there to the end just about, hes what kept me in it!

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Postby micklan » 29 Apr 2008, 11:22

my road bike is 54cm seat post to head stem
what is 53cm centre to top?
thanks

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Hillbrick Track Bike 53cm c/t

Alloy Frame 53cm centre to top

Sealed bearing hubs & bottom bracket

Deep section 700c rims

Great track bike for beginners

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Postby T-Bone » 29 Apr 2008, 11:38

Centre to top should be the measurement from the centre of bottom bracket to the top of the seat tube. (centre to centre would be bottom bracket to centre of top tube intersection with seat tube)

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Postby micklan » 29 Apr 2008, 12:05

yikes - this must be one small track bike then!

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Postby weiyun » 29 Apr 2008, 13:07

centre to centre would be bottom bracket to centre of top tube intersection with seat tube
And the top tube line needs to be horizontal, virtual top tube if it was a compact frame.

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Postby micklan » 29 Apr 2008, 13:59

centre to top is 53cm, and I've found out that the top tube is 52.5cms, might be the smallest frame Hilbrick have. Could be a good fit for me. :wink:

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Postby Toff » 29 Apr 2008, 14:12

That frame is the same size as my track frame. Not a small frame. More like a "medium". I'd say it's likely to be a pretty good fit for you, based on your road frame size.

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Postby T-Bone » 29 Apr 2008, 16:25

And the top tube line needs to be horizontal, virtual top tube if it was a compact frame.
Top tube doesn't need to be horizontal for a centre to centre seat tube measurement as it mainly gives an idea of standover, however you a right in that horizontal top tube is a better measure to look at for a compact frame.

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